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  • Mitka
    Member
    • May 2017
    • 128

    #16
    Thank you for the answers Shokai and Shingen. Being new to real-life Zen (the kind not found in books) all the variety of kesas, full and abbreviated, are a tad bewildering.

    EDIT: Just want to clarify that I asked purely out of curiority, not because I thought I would be sowing one.

    Gassho,
    Matthew
    Sat
    Last edited by Mitka; 05-24-2018, 09:37 PM.
    Peace begins inside

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 40351

      #17
      Let me just emphasize, there is absolutely no reason that folks at Treeleaf need to know anything whatsoever about Wagesa or Hangesa.

      Gassho, J

      SatTodayLAH
      Last edited by Jundo; 05-22-2018, 03:35 PM.
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • Shoka
        Member
        • May 2014
        • 2370

        #18
        Trivia is so much fun! Thanks for such an interesting thread. More random information to file away.

        Gassho,

        Shoka
        sattoday

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        • Kyonin
          Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
          • Oct 2010
          • 6749

          #19
          I love these posts. Thank you all.

          I have seen the wagesa before, but had no idea about them.

          Gassho,

          Kyonin
          Sat/LAH
          Hondō Kyōnin
          奔道 協忍

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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 40351

            #20
            I heard from Domyo, who said that the double s (Wagessa) is just how they started spelling it in Kennett Roshi's OBC, and too late to change now!

            (I believe that this is a living example of how most 'traditions' were born in Zen over the centuries! With 'that's just what somebody started doing.' )

            And let me repeat: There is absolutely no reason that folks at Treeleaf need to know anything whatsoever about Wagesa (one s'or two) or Hangesa.


            Gassho, J

            SatTodayLAH
            ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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            • Rendulic
              Member
              • Mar 2018
              • 43

              #21
              As someone who's day job involves writing regulation and policy, and someone who used to call these O'Kesa, from the Pure Land folks who made New England home decades ago and preferred the honorific "O" (for example "O'Bon"), this is a fascinating example of how knowledge/trivia/information grows and proliferates. Having zazen as a touchstone and a few precepts to come back to are useful corrections to the fractal accumulation that happens with data. And traditions are data to which we've attached meaning.

              Gassho, Rendulic
              Sat Today

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              • Getchi
                Member
                • May 2015
                • 612

                #22


                THankyou.

                Geoff.

                SatToday
                LaH.
                Nothing to do? Why not Sit?

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                • Souchi
                  Member
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 324

                  #23
                  Thanks, I really like these kind of trivia

                  Gassho,
                  Souchi

                  SatToday

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                  • Myogan
                    Member
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 375

                    #24
                    Hangessas have been given as gifts, or as the “casual wear” robe for some temples. Myself, I have been tempted to take a leftover strip of cloth from my Kesa, leave it plain as a pocket representation of my Kesa when I sit away from home, but as it has been said, “we wear our Kesa all the time in our daily lives”

                    Gassho
                    Sat
                    Marc Connery
                    明岩
                    Myo̅ Gan - Bright Cliff

                    I put the Monkey in Monkeymind

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                    • Kyonin
                      Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 6749

                      #25
                      Okesa : Wagesa

                      Mario : Wario



                      Luigi : Waluigi



                      I shall sit with this.

                      Gassho,

                      Kyonin
                      Sat/LAH
                      Hondō Kyōnin
                      奔道 協忍

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