I don't know

[Rich]

"I don't know" is my common answer to my family and others, and it drives them nuts Everyone wants answers, and I like not having them about the future, as I prefer to deal with the now, what is right in front of me. I always have plans, but I plan on contingencies, not set in stone. What I have learned from my life experience is that *anything* can change in a single moment, and that all things change. I still worry sometimes, but worrying is really a waste of time and energy.

When I start getting caught up in the rabbit's chase of the "what if" game - often Jundo's words come to mind of "chop wood and fetch water" (as Daizan also quoted above). Maybe Jundo did not originally say that, I don't know, but I often see him saying that. TreeLeaf in general has so much "down-home wisdom" that I cherish. It reminds me that no matter what is going on, the basics of life must still go on, and to stop worrying on the extraneous things. Focus on the now, and do what needs doing now.

That's my take on it. I don't know either, and I like not knowing - because I don't need to know, and I feel very peaceful about it. And so I sit with that

Gassho
Kim
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That's it , we don't need to know. Trust in the moment, your true self, the universe, god whatever you want to call it. SS said don't know is clear mind, like space. With don't know you respond authentically to the situation.

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[Jundo]

That's it , we don't need to know. Trust in the moment, your true self, the universe, god whatever you want to call it. SS said don't know is clear mind, like space. With don't know you respond authentically to the situation.

Lovely. There is a beauty and power to just being simple.

A Shaker hymm that I never tire to hear ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOx9quc-iow

Gassho, J

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[Getchi]

Hi Paul!

Enjoy it!

dont forget to breath


Jundo ; love the clips, thankyou


Gassho,
Geoff.

Sattoday.

[Kyonin]

Hi Paul.

Yes, I think this sense of lose sometimes hit us. It's scary because we can feel how we have constructed our personality over a think layer of ego... but at the same time there is indeed confort in not knowing stuff. This is because we start to take more in account that the beginner's mind is a natural estate of being.

Not knowing with all our hearts bring joy in many ways. We understand there is a large path still to walk on our practice and life, but at the same time we are very comfortable with thins as they are.

We understand that we can let go of our opinions and points of view in order to keep on learning and to connect with others, to grow together.

By not knowing you are flowing with life.

When the scary part is over, you'll feel pretty good. At least that was in my experience

Gassho,

Kyonin
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[Jishin]

Hi Paul,

There is a difference in I don't know and don't know.

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

[PClark1]

Hi Paul,

There is a difference in I don't know and don't know.

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

I think I understand this. After sitting with this feeling for a couple of days, it strikes me that I still believe as I did before, but I feel an openness to learning other perspectives and hearing how I might be wrong in my reasoning. That is something that has never been there before. I no longer feel attached to the idea that I am right.

Gassho
Paul

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[Rich]

Hi Paul,

There is a difference in I don't know and don't know.

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

You hit the target 🤗
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[RichardH]

I don't know.... don't know.... same thing. egolessness is just ego in cosmic drag, so how about just ordinary "I" without the pretence. This is a post that might draw a rebuke, but that is ok. Just putting down I and No-I.

Gassho
Daizan

Sat today

[Risho]

Hi Paul,

There is a difference in I don't know and don't know.

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

hmm not sure

kidding, of course. well said

Gassho

Risho
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[Jishin]

I don't know.... don't know.... same thing. egolessness is just ego in cosmic drag, so how about just ordinary "I" without the pretence. This is a post that might draw a rebuke, but that is ok. Just putting down I and No-I.

Gassho
Daizan

Sat today

Don't know.

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

[RichardH]

Don't know.

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

Same here, . But I do know there is one more chocolate fudge snack pudding in the fridge......... and there won't be in about 45 seconds.


Gassho
Daizan

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[Rich]

I don't know.... don't know.... same thing. egolessness is just ego in cosmic drag, so how about just ordinary "I" without the pretence. This is a post that might draw a rebuke, but that is ok. Just putting down I and No-I.

Gassho
Daizan

Sat today

Am not rebuking but wonder in this moment what is this I. An exhalation, a feeling, awareness. If you think that I is separate, or substantial, or exists outside this moment that is a problem.

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[RichardH]

Am not rebuking but wonder in this moment what is this I. An exhalation, a feeling, awareness. If you think that I is separate, or substantial, or exists outside this moment that is a problem.

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I do not think "l" is separate, or substantial, or stands anywhere. That is why there is no difference between "I don't know", and "don't know". Self... no self. " I" wouldn't make too much of it. But this is neither here nor there. "I" should stick to art, and not wade in to this,

Gassho
Daizan

Sat today

[Rich]

I do not think "l" is separate, or substantial, or stands anywhere. That is why there is no difference between "I don't know", and "don't know". Self... no self. " I" wouldn't make too much of it. But this is neither here nor there. "I" should stick to art, and not wade in to this,

Gassho
Daizan

Sat today

Thanks Daizan, appreciate your wading and practice.

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[Jundo]

I do not think "l" is separate, or substantial, or stands anywhere. That is why there is no difference between "I don't know", and "don't know". Self... no self. " I" wouldn't make too much of it. But this is neither here nor there. "I" should stick to art, and not wade in to this,

Somehow reminds me of the old children's silly song "I know that you know that I know that you know that I know that ... "

... but our version is "I know that no know that that no I that no know that know know that no no I I ... "

And then, of course, Dogen was on about "knowing-not-knowing" and "thinking-not-thinking". Just "I-not-I-ing"

Aye yai yai.

Gassho, J

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