North London Zen Center - Soto Deshimaru Lineage

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  • Hoshuku
    Member
    • May 2017
    • 370

    North London Zen Center - Soto Deshimaru Lineage

    During my annual UK trip, I was able to drop into sit with this group led by Lana Berrington, a Canadian born priest with dharma transmission in the Deshimaru line. I knew about her and the group through a Soto Zen Facebook Group, which I where I first encountered Jundo. I went on a Thursday evening (7-9) and Sunday morning (9-11). Due to our habits at Treeleaf I managed not to embarrass us as this is the most liturgically inclined group I’ve ever met (and I live in Japan). On the Sunday morning it seemed that EVERYONE was a priest, had memorized everything and chanted in Sino-Japanese (they gave me a booklet), did full body postrations and only wore black. I felt like the country mouse visiting city cousins. Very friendly city cousins curious about our ways and who knew of Jundo through an online talk he’d given about ‘The Zen Master’s Dance.’

    Bows
    Hoshuku
    Satlah
  • Bion
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Aug 2020
    • 7104

    #2
    Sounds lovely and it seems like they have plenty practice opportunities throughout the week.

    Gassho
    sat lah
    "One uninvolved has nothing embraced or rejected, has sloughed off every view right here - every one."

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    • Kotei
      Dharma Transmitted Priest
      • Mar 2015
      • 5188

      #3
      That sounds nice!
      Some time ago, I sat a retreat with a group like that. The lay folks all in (lay) robes and everything memorized. And they've had quite some repertoire of different chants.
      I felt like that country mouse, too. Everyone ready to start with the ceremony and then waiting for the Jisha to bring the chant book, walking all around the room, just for me.
      But it was also very intimate and embracing.

      Gassho,
      Kotei sat/lah today.

      義道 冴庭 / Gidō Kotei.

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      • Washin
        Senior Priest-in-Training
        • Dec 2014
        • 3981

        #4
        Interesting. It seems like most of the groups that belong to the Deshimaru lineage are of the same style. Years ago I sat a couple of retreats with the mixed PL-UA sangha practicing under Sando Kaisen.
        The same format as described above.
        It was a good experience for me.

        Gassho
        Washin
        St+lah
        Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
        Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
        ----
        I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
        and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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        • michaelw
          Member
          • Feb 2022
          • 364

          #5
          I sat with the Kosen sangha in Deshimaru lineage during Ango. They had a sit in solidarity with Stephane teachings after he passed away in September. It was a 24hr a day over 43 days sit broken into 25 minutes zazen five minutes kinhin. I found it such a natural way to sit that I still use it daily. They are a very conservative orthodox practice in my limited experience. My green Rakusu caused a few hard stares.
          I used to sit Sunday with them but prefer our own Treeleaf Sunday.
          I like a good schism and AZI has now split into AZI and Zen Deshimaru Buddhist Association or Kosen sangha and everyone else. I can't for the life of me find any discernable difference between them except Stephane used the 'true bearer of the light' argument after he took exception to Harada(?) a Rinzai master being invited to lead sesshin at La Gendronnière. He went off and formed ZDBA. It will be interesting to see what happens next.

          Gassho
          MichaelW
          satlah

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          • Myo-jin
            Member
            • Dec 2024
            • 118

            #6
            As someone who feels more at home with the ‘mad old hermit in the backwoods’ than the cultured and refined town monks, I’d take country mouse as a compliment.

            Gassho

            Sattlah

            明尽
            "My religion is not deceiving myself": Milarepa.

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 44504

              #7
              Each place and Lineage has their own house style, with their own good points and possible demerits,** plus a reminder that what suits one person as excellent medicine may not be for another.

              If everybody in Buddhism where one way, rather than diverse ways, the tradition might have died out long ago. Like species in the ecosystem, diversity is a good thing for the overall health of nature.

              ** FOOTNOTE: Except for Treeleaf. We are perfect for everyone.

              Gassho, J
              stlah
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Shinkon
                Novice Priest-in-Training
                • Jan 2024
                • 239

                #8
                I think of Fievel Mousekewitz being in the big city - a fun image.
                Now and then, I like to visit other zen groups and see how they perform services and conduct zazen. When it's back to in-person services, I'll visit the O-an Zendo local to my area. Meido Barbara Anderson is their resident teacher.

                Gassho,
                Shinkon
                satlah

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                • Hosei
                  Member
                  • Jul 2015
                  • 1

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hoshuku
                  During my annual UK trip, I was able to drop into sit with this group led by Lana Berrington, a Canadian born priest with dharma transmission in the Deshimaru line. I knew about her and the group through a Soto Zen Facebook Group, which I where I first encountered Jundo. I went on a Thursday evening (7-9) and Sunday morning (9-11). Due to our habits at Treeleaf I managed not to embarrass us as this is the most liturgically inclined group I’ve ever met (and I live in Japan). On the Sunday morning it seemed that EVERYONE was a priest, had memorized everything and chanted in Sino-Japanese (they gave me a booklet), did full body postrations and only wore black. I felt like the country mouse visiting city cousins. Very friendly city cousins curious about our ways and who knew of Jundo through an online talk he’d given about ‘The Zen Master’s Dance.’

                  Bows
                  Hoshuku
                  Satlah
                  Come back any time my dude - everyone's welcome. (ps: we also chant in english sometimes - but mostly the ekos)
                  法星 Hōsei

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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 44504

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hosei

                    Come back any time my dude - everyone's welcome. (ps: we also chant in english sometimes - but mostly the ekos)
                    法星 Hōsei
                    Hi Hosei!,

                    For those who don't know, "Hosei" is the wonderful Zen priest Hosei Berrington, friend of Treeleaf and head priest in London!

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                    Gassho, Jundo
                    stlah
                    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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