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  • Mujin
    Member
    • Jul 2023
    • 82

    Study

    I am currently reading the book, "Living by Vow" by Okumura. He mentions quite often about the practice and study of Buddhism and Dharma. What is there to study regarding these? Sutra? Books? I'd like to deepen my practice of Zen, just curious what the author may mean by stating to study as well as practice Shikantaza.

    Gassho,

    Mujin

    SatTodayLAH
  • Kokuu
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Nov 2012
    • 6971

    #2
    Hi Mujin

    In my experience there are a few ways to study the dharma. These include the lives of the Buddhist ancestors, including the Buddha himself; the teachings from early suttas, Mahayana sutras and works of Zen masters and contemporary teachers; the history and practice of Soto Zen, and 'how to' guides to practice.

    We have an extensive recommended reading list that can support your practice, but in reality you don't need to read too much in order to sit well. That said, it can be nice to have some knowledge of Zen and other Buddhist traditions.

    Shohaku Okumura's books are a fantastic read and he is a very reliable teacher, as his is teacher Uchiyama Roshi, who wrote Opening the Hand of Thought.

    Some folk have also recommended The Zen Masters Dance by Jundo Cohen but who knows what that is like?

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday/lah-

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    • Shoshin
      Member
      • Jul 2024
      • 291

      #3
      Hi!
      I just started reading this book too . I'm at the very begging but I guess Okomura means reading the Sutras and also books and texts by historical zen masters, like Dogen, and also contemporary masters. Also listening to Dharma talks is a way to study the Dharma.

      I'm reading, also "The Zen Master's Dance" written by Jundo. It's a guide to understand Dogen and it's really nicely written. I really recommend it.
      Someone here recommended the "Heart Of Buddha's Teaching" by soto zen master Thich Nhat Hanh. It explains some of the basic Buddhist teachings. I'm ready it too and I find it very helpful.

      I've practiced zen very intermittently since many years ago but until Iess than one year ago I wasn't consistent. So I consider myself a beginner. So... take what I'm going to say as the words of someone that has no idea what they talk about :

      As I see it there are four pillars to our practice:

      Shikantaza
      Studying the Dharma
      The Sangha
      Living trying to apply to our daily life what we learn from the other three pillars

      ​​​​The study of the Dharma helps me to understand what's going on when I sit in zazen, gives me some extra "faith" in the practice for the days when I have some doubts and helps me as an inspiration to be more authentic, more compassionate and more accepting in my day to day life.

      Gassho,
      Satlah







      ​​​​​​
      Shōshin - Pine Heart 松心

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      • Houzan
        Member
        • Dec 2022
        • 555

        #4
        Originally posted by Shoshin
        As I see it there are four pillars to our practice:

        Shikantaza
        Studying the Dharma
        The Sangha
        Living trying to apply to our daily life what we learn from the other three pillars
        Don’t forget about the precepts!

        Gassho, Hōzan
        satlah

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        • Shoshin
          Member
          • Jul 2024
          • 291

          #5
          Originally posted by Houzan

          Don’t forget about the precepts!

          Gassho, Hōzan
          satlah
          I thought the precepts are included in the Dharma teachings. Aren't they?

          Gassho,
          Satlah
          Shōshin - Pine Heart 松心

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          • Houzan
            Member
            • Dec 2022
            • 555

            #6
            Originally posted by Shoshin

            I thought the precepts are included in the Dharma teachings. Aren't they?

            Gassho,
            Satlah
            You’re probably right Guess we could slice and dice «practice» in a number of ways.

            Gassho, Hōzan
            satlah

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            • Bion
              Senior Priest-in-Training
              • Aug 2020
              • 5035

              #7
              Originally posted by Shoshin

              I thought the precepts are included in the Dharma teachings. Aren't they?

              Gassho,
              Satlah
              I'd say you already included them in the part about LIVING THE TEACHINGS, or applying what we learn. The Precepts have the same span as our life, especially once one formally receives them. So, to truly study the precepts means to study our own lives, moment by moment.

              Gassho
              sat lah
              "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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              • Junsho
                Member
                • Mar 2024
                • 194

                #8
                Originally posted by Bion
                So, to truly study the precepts means to study our own lives, moment by moment.
                Bion, I totally agree with you.

                I hope that nobody understand me wrong, I am just a student so I rarely say something here with more details but today I will open an exception.

                As I can see, the words in books or talking are the way to transmit an idea, to give to you a kickstart, a way to go or to correct your path but no book will teach you the real Dharma.

                The teachings of Buddha are about to live in an authentic way, here and now. Don't think that the reflex of the moon in a pond is the moon.

                However, even no book is needed, If even you really would like a suggestion of a book a great way to start is with this one



                Gassho!
                ​​​​​​SatLah
                Junshō 純聲 - Pure Voice, Genuine Speech
                ​​​​​​
                If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.” - Linji Yixuan​​

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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 41101

                  #9
                  by soto zen master Thich Nhat Hanh
                  Just a note that TNH, while a wonderful guide, was not a Teacher of Soto Zen. His flavor of Vietnamese Thien is more influenced by mindfulness and Southeast Asian traditions.

                  And, yet, never forget the Precepts!

                  Gassho, Jundo
                  stlah
                  ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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