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  • Anthony
    Member
    • Aug 2023
    • 95

    Options for "Fake" Incense

    I very much like the idea of incorporating incense in my practice, but am wary due to the possible health effects of the smoke, as well as the fact that I live in an apartment and do not want to trigger the smoke alarm, nor get in trouble for using smoke indoors.

    Are there any options for "fake" incense that might not have these problems? I often use these electric air freshener things that I plug into the wall and release some nice fragrance into the air. Does such a thing exist for replicating incense?

    gassho,
    Anthony
    satlah
  • Bion
    Senior Priest-in-Training
    • Aug 2020
    • 4712

    #2
    Hi, Anthony! You can try smokeless incense. Here's a couple of options:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Les-Encens-du-Monde-Smokeless/dp/B000KDVNDA
    https://nipponkodostore.com/collections/smokeless-less-smoke-incense-sticks?srsltid=AfmBOooar62ySPb5FBM7RLwr0EnwGuPSTlA Y_UH9UKCJ5x6ktxchQiMp


    I'm sure those would work fine in an apartment.

    Gassho
    sat lah
    "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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    • Anthony
      Member
      • Aug 2023
      • 95

      #3
      Originally posted by Bion
      Whoa! I didn't know about this! Thanks so much Bion!

      gassho, Anthony satlah

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      • Bion
        Senior Priest-in-Training
        • Aug 2020
        • 4712

        #4
        Originally posted by Anthony

        Whoa! I didn't know about this! Thanks so much Bion!

        gassho, Anthony satlah
        My pleasure!

        Gassho
        sat lah
        "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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        • Tokan
          Novice Priest-in-Training
          • Oct 2016
          • 1321

          #5
          Hi Anthony

          I am not 'allowed' to use incense in my house, my partner cannot tolerate the smell, even when unlit! I therefore have to either pretend I have incense in my hands or use a pencil as a notional incense stick. I prefer the smokey-smelly version, but I can only push the boss so far lol

          Gassho, Tokan

          satlah
          平道 島看 Heidou Tokan (Balanced Way Island Nurse)
          I enjoy learning from everyone, I simply hope to be a friend along the way

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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 40539

            #6
            Incense is not necessary to Zen or Buddhist practice, of course, but it is just a nice olfactory stimulation ... something like flowers and a Buddha statue can be a reminder to the eye, chanting to the ear.

            However, with worries about secondary smoke and other concerns, it is not strictly necessary.

            Sometimes, if someone is sensitive, I place a stick but do not light it. Sometimes, I light it for a moment, then place the burning end into the sand.

            Japan also has totally modern LED incense burners, some (not most) complete with little "scent" cartridges. I think that is silly.

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            Gassho, J
            stlah
            ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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            • Chikyou
              Member
              • May 2022
              • 659

              #7
              I use Japanese incense exclusively - it doesn’t have the wooden stick common in western incense and is much more tolerable. (High quality brands also lack the harsh artificial scents common in popular western incense which are so utterly obnoxious).

              I’ve seen incense heaters intended for high quality wood chip incense, that heat it but don’t burn it.

              Gassho,
              SatLah
              Chikyō
              Chikyō 知鏡
              (KellyLM)

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              • Shinshi
                Senior Priest-in-Training
                • Jul 2010
                • 3695

                #8
                Just in case it is useful for someone. I am very allergic to most incense. The only thing I can use is incense that is actually made from wood - in the same stick format as other incense. For some reason I can tolerate them. But I always light it and then put it out right away in the sand. That is enough for me.

                I remember that Minnesota was doing away with incense in the 1980s when I was there, because of allergies - but I have no idea what they do now.

                Gassho, Shinshi

                SaT-LaH
                空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi

                For Zen students a weed is a treasure. With this attitude, whatever you do, life becomes an art.
                ​— Shunryu Suzuki

                E84I - JAJ

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                • mdonnoe
                  Member
                  • Feb 2024
                  • 238

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jundo

                  Japan also has totally modern LED incense burners, some (not most) complete with little "scent" cartridges. I think that is silly.

                  517eVcuWgIL._AC_SX679_.jpg



                  Gassho, J
                  stlah

                  I just have to say... that is ADORABLE! As a kid, I used to "play church" in the backyard. Maybe if a kid wants to "play temple," this would be fun for them!

                  Gassho,
                  M

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                  • Anthony
                    Member
                    • Aug 2023
                    • 95

                    #10
                    Thanks for the great responses everyone. After doing some research, I think I will look for a good electric burner (it seems there's one called the "Golden Lotus" that's pretty popular online) and use some of the low-smoke incense as recommended by Bion. I'll let you know how it goes when I get a burner (probably in a month or two )

                    Originally posted by Jundo
                    Incense is not necessary to Zen or Buddhist practice, of course, but it is just a nice olfactory stimulation ... something like flowers and a Buddha statue can be a reminder to the eye, chanting to the ear.

                    However, with worries about secondary smoke and other concerns, it is not strictly necessary.

                    Sometimes, if someone is sensitive, I place a stick but do not light it. Sometimes, I light it for a moment, then place the burning end into the sand.

                    Japan also has totally modern LED incense burners, some (not most) complete with little "scent" cartridges. I think that is silly.

                    517eVcuWgIL._AC_SX679_.jpg



                    Gassho, J
                    stlah
                    These are a bit silly but they seem kinda fun!

                    I think the value of incense and chanting and other sense experiences is in setting the stage for your mind. Of course you can do zazen anywhere, and there is no such thing as bad zazen, but I imagine that with some ritual and habit, one can prime their mind to get their butts onto the cushion.

                    Gassho,
                    Anthony
                    satlah

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                    • Ryumon
                      Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1806

                      #11
                      You could just use a twig and pretend that it's incense. (I can't use incense because of asthma.)

                      Gassho,

                      Ryūmon (Kirk)

                      Sat Lah
                      I know nothing.

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