Scientific Explanation for the 'Flow State' / Happiness and Money

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40886

    Scientific Explanation for the 'Flow State' / Happiness and Money

    Two recent scientific studies folks may find interesting ...

    The first present of one of the best, and simplest, explanations I've encountered for the so-called 'In the Zone' or 'Flow' state, based on brain studies. It may go far to demonstrate the important in traditional Zen practice of repeated physical actions, ranging from Chanting Ceremonies, to the ballet of Oryoki (ritual eating), to sweeping and other cleaning procedures, to ways of walking to, of course, Zazen ...


    New Study Reveals How the Brain Achieves a Flow State

    A study by Drexel University’s Creativity Research Lab demonstrates that achieving a creative flow state, or “being in the zone,” depends on having extensive experience in a domain and the ability to release control, allowing the brain to operate with minimal conscious oversight. This was evidenced by neuroimaging of jazz musicians improvising, revealing that high levels of experience and reduced executive control activity in the brain are key to entering flow states. ...

    ... [T]heir results suggest that creative flow can be achieved by training people to release control when they have built up enough expertise in a particular domain. ... [T]hrough years of intense practice, the brain develops a specialized network or circuit to automatically produce a specific type of ideas, in this case, musical ones, with little conscious effort. In this view, the executive control network relaxes its supervision so that the musician can “let go” and allow this specialized circuit to go on “autopilot” without interference. The research team said the key to this notion is the idea that people who do not have extensive experience at a task or who have difficulty releasing control will be less likely to experience deep creative flow. ... The researchers tested these competing theories of creative flow by recording high-density electroencephalograms (EEGs) from 32 jazz guitar players, some highly experienced and others less experienced.

    BELOW: Inner views of the left and right sides of the brain showing areas of reduced brain activity when the high-experience musicians were in a high-flow state (compared to a low-flow state). These areas include key nodes of the brain’s default-mode network.
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    The second is about happiness and what we may be missing in modern societies ...

    New Research Reveals That Happiness Isn’t Expensive

    New research finds high life satisfaction among Indigenous and local communities with minimal financial resources, challenging the notion that happiness depends on wealth. This suggests a sustainable path to well-being that emphasizes social, spiritual, and environmental connections over economic growth. ... The research, published in the scientific journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), consisted of a survey of 2,966 people from Indigenous and local communities in 19 globally distributed sites. Only 64% of surveyed households had any cash income. The results show that “surprisingly, many populations with very low monetary incomes report very high average levels of life satisfaction, with scores similar to those in wealthy countries,” says Eric Galbraith, a researcher at ICTA-UAB and McGill University and lead author of the study.

    The average life satisfaction score across the studied small-scale societies was 6.8 on a scale of 0-10. Although not all societies reported being highly satisfied – averages were as low as 5.1 – four of the sites reported average scores higher than 8, typical of wealthy Scandinavian countries in other polls, “and this is so, despite many of these societies having suffered histories of marginalization and oppression.” The results are consistent with the notion that human societies can support very satisfactory lives for their members without necessarily requiring high degrees of material wealth, as measured in monetary terms. ... The findings are good news for sustainability and human happiness, as they provide strong evidence that resource-intensive economic growth is not required to achieve high levels of subjective well-being. ... The researchers highlight that, although they now know that people in many Indigenous and local communities report high levels of life satisfaction, they do not know why. Prior work would suggest that family and social support and relationships, spirituality, and connections to nature are among the important factors on which this happiness is based, “but it is possible that the important factors differ significantly between societies or, conversely, that a small subset of factors dominate everywhere. .... "
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    Good for the notion that we can live more simply and be happy.

    It is not a reason to tolerate poverty in the world, however, and people deserve access to housing, healthcare, food, medicine, etc.

    Gassho, J
    stlah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • Roo
    Member
    • Dec 2024
    • 9

    #2
    Hi Jundo,

    I enjoyed this. It's very interesting, and reassuring, as I'm of a poor family in America (which is a country that often denies our basic necessities of healthcare, food, medicine, etc.—me being an experiencer of this, living with untreated chronic pain for five years, and starving as a kid in school, then going home and starving too )—only recently have I truly understood that material possessions do not contribute to happiness, so I'd started minimalizing/simplifying my room. I have most of my basic necessities now, besides being able to see a doctor , but Zen practice and therapy has really helped me to ease my mind to it; finding happiness in just being, not constrained to having more or less, but just enough. Of course, all people should have access to their needs, as that is very important to our happiness overall.

    Gassho, Austin

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    • Hosai
      Member
      • Jun 2024
      • 600

      #3
      flow State exists...but the moment you try to control it.... it doesn't.... So the most important aspect of learning around flow State is being aware when you are in a flow State and making use of it while you can... It also implies that you should recognise that when everything you do is turning to shit....and maybe you should stop what you are doing and sit down...

      I'm in Naples Florida right now... and I have to be honest. I hate it here... The amount of money and unhappiness in the same place sickens me.... So much privilege... like SO MUCH privilege... and then some woman in the grocery store complains that they don't have the exact type of cold cut she wanted..... and then just a few kilometres east is Imokolee.... One the poorest areas in the state.

      And these stupid trump-loving idiots in the gated communities think that making blankets for Mexican babies makes it okay....

      I'm so angry right now....

      _/\_
      sat/ah
      ​​​​​matt
      防災 Hōsai - Dharma Gatherer

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 40886

        #4
        Originally posted by Matt Johnson
        flow State exists...but the moment you try to control it.... it doesn't.... So the most important aspect of learning around flow State is being aware when you are in a flow State and making use of it while you can... It also implies that you should recognise that when everything you do is turning to shit....and maybe you should stop what you are doing and sit down...

        I'm in Naples Florida right now... and I have to be honest. I hate it here... The amount of money and unhappiness in the same place sickens me.... So much privilege... like SO MUCH privilege... and then some woman in the grocery store complains that they don't have the exact type of cold cut she wanted..... and then just a few kilometres east is Imokolee.... One the poorest areas in the state.

        And these stupid trump-loving idiots in the gated communities think that making blankets for Mexican babies makes it okay....

        I'm so angry right now....

        _/\_
        sat/ah
        ​​matt
        First, I agree about the "flow state." Some folks think that the point of this Training is to reach such states and, perhaps, even stay there always. I do not believe that at all. They are a "tool on the toolbelt" that we might develop, to have available sometimes for certain activities and times when one wishes to be so. Or, they may simply be a reference, a sometimes experience that teaches us something about "losing outself and finding ourself" beyond complex thinking and planning. Once in a long while is fine.

        As to Austin's comment on poverty ... Sadly, I think that there are different kinds. Perhaps being in a traditional agricultural village surrounded by family, one's native culture, gives a certain stability that is not present these days in, for example, American urban poverty or many unstable and violent places in the world. Being poor itself is not a key to happiness without much else added to provide stability. Likewise, being rich is not a key to happiness either.

        As to the "FLA state," ... Matt, please try to avoid the overt political comments, even if well meaning. We just leave that at the door here. Commenting about social issues, poverty and such is one thing, but overt political statements another. It is a fine line, but talking about hunger, opportunity is okay ... talking about a candidate is not. As a former resident of Ft. Lauderdale, however, I hear you.

        Gassho, J
        stlah
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Ryumon
          Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 1818

          #5
          Re flow state: as Matt says, you can't "control it," but you can do things to bring it about regularly. Lots of hobbies or creative activities can induce the flow state in people, which is why people practice these activities. I'm not sure that the "auto-pilot" idea is entirely true. This may be the case of jazz musicians improvising, but it's also the case when you drive a car, and that isn't really a flow state. I think the true flow state comes when you do something enjoyable, or at least agreeable. It could be blowing the sax, it could be cooking or knitting or doing a jigsaw puzzle, maybe even reading, but I think that not all auto-pilot states can be flow states. In other words, there are probable multiple levels of the flow state mechanism that come into play.

          This said, why not seek to enter that state more often? It's obviously not the point of sitting zazen, but for many people, that state is relaxing and satisfying, and, again, it's why so many people perform what may seem to be mindless activities or hobbies.

          Re Roo's comment about "minimalizing/simplifying my room," what I find that does is remove the visual static around you, allowing you to think more clearly. I used to be the guy who had a messy desk, but who "knew where everything was." A few years ago, I cleared off most of my desk - other than tools I need for my work - and I have found my work to be much less stressful. Things I don't use all the time, I hide behind my computer (an iMac) when I'm not using them. That clear desk - on which I put things when I need to - helps me work with less static.

          Gassho,
          Ryūmon (Kirk)
          Sat Lah​
          I know nothing.

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          • Kokuu
            Dharma Transmitted Priest
            • Nov 2012
            • 6905

            #6
            I'm in Naples Florida right now... and I have to be honest. I hate it here... The amount of money and unhappiness in the same place sickens me.... So much privilege... like SO MUCH privilege... and then some woman in the grocery store complains that they don't have the exact type of cold cut she wanted..... and then just a few kilometres east is Imokolee.... One the poorest areas in the state.

            And these stupid trump-loving idiots in the gated communities think that making blankets for Mexican babies makes it okay....
            Hi Matt

            I can understand that feeling but I wonder if these people are just struggling against how samsara is? They may well have internalised a cultural message that money and success brings happiness and that all of the things you want should be available when you want them. If I was brought up like that, would I be any different? I really can't say.

            I definitely feel you on seeing wealth and poverty existing pretty much side-by-side. That is hard to reconcile for me. Sometimes rewards are earned, more often they are a product of chance depending on the start we get in life and who we are surrounded with.

            Gassho
            Kokuu
            -sattoday/lah-

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