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  • Seikan
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    • Apr 2020
    • 710

    ARTS: Poetry — What are you reading?

    Hello Everyone!

    When it comes to poetry, what are you reading these days? If you’re not currently reading anything particular, what are some of your favorite poets/poetry books?

    If you’d like to share, please respond below and consider including a photo of the book(s) as well (a simple list is fine though).

    Just like my tea cabinet, I like to keep a number of poetry books within arm’s reach and “sip” from one or two of them each day.

    Currently, I’m spending most of my reading time with the following books (although this can change on a whim):
    • Happy Life by David Budbill
    • The Mountain Poems of Stonehouse translated by Red Pine
    • This Present Moment by Gary Snyder
    • The Voice at 3:00 A.M. by Charles Simic
    • Jane Kenyon’s Collected Poems
    • The Complete Poems of Kenneth Rexroth (the black hardcover in the below photo)


    Let’s use this thread to share updates on what we are all reading from time to time. There is so much great poetry out there, and I find that personal recommendations are often the best way to learn about new books to read.

    Happy reading!

    Gassho,
    Seikan

    -stlah-


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  • Yokai
    Member
    • Jan 2020
    • 506

    #2
    Thank you Seikan

    You've inspired me to dig into 'The Complete Cold Mountain. Poems by the legendary hermit Hanshan' Trans. Kazuaki Tanahashi & Peter Levitt.

    It's been sitting on my tablet for over a year! Maybe I'll give writing a whirl too...maybe!

    Gassho, Yokai (Chris) sat/lah

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    • Shonin Risa Bear
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 923

      #3
      Have been sticking to Bood things currently. Hsin hsin ming, acupuncture needle, grass hut, Stonehouse. Then there's this quite odd book, Zengo -- a study of well known zen phrases such as "the cypress tree in the courtyard" -- these phrases are poetry on the surface, fire and ice beneath. _()_

      gassho
      ds sat/lah

      久須本文雄 Kusumoto Bun’yū (1907-1995)
      Zengo nyūmon
      禅語入門
      Tokyo: 大法輪閣 Daihōrin-kaku Co. Ltd., 1982 An Introduction to Zen Words and Phrases
      Translated by Michael D. Ruymar (Michael Sōru Ruymar)
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      • Shonin Risa Bear
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        • Apr 2019
        • 923

        #4
        There is some Red Pine and Cold Mountain in this playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...lwMtmc7R9q-E8n

        gassho
        ds sat and lah today
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        • Seikan
          Member
          • Apr 2020
          • 710

          #5
          Originally posted by Yokai
          Thank you Seikan

          You've inspired me to dig into 'The Complete Cold Mountain. Poems by the legendary hermit Hanshan' Trans. Kazuaki Tanahashi & Peter Levitt.

          It's been sitting on my tablet for over a year! Maybe I'll give writing a whirl too...maybe!

          Gassho, Yokai (Chris) sat/lah

          Cold Mountain is a treasure for certain! I have the Tanahashi translation as well. Hmm. That would be a nice complement to the Stonehouse book that I'm reading. Perhaps I'll add it back into the current rotation as well.

          Let me know if you dive into it soon.

          Gassho,
          Seikan

          -st-
          聖簡 Seikan (Sacred Simplicity)

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          • Seikan
            Member
            • Apr 2020
            • 710

            #6
            Originally posted by Shōnin Risa Bear
            There is some Red Pine and Cold Mountain in this playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...lwMtmc7R9q-E8n

            gassho
            ds sat and lah today

            Shonin,

            Thank you for this. You have so much in this playlist that I'm not familiar with (poetry and beyond!). This is perfect for the next few arctic-like days we're having here in New England.

            And thank you for the Zengo Nyūmon suggestion. I found a copy of that English translation online (https://sites.google.com/site/mdruymar/home). I panicked a bit when I saw that it's over 400 pages, but like many poetry books, it appears to be more of a day hike and not a thru-hike kind of read (if you get my metaphor).



            Gassho,
            Seikan

            -st-
            聖簡 Seikan (Sacred Simplicity)

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            • Tai Shi
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              • Oct 2014
              • 3468

              #7
              Shonion Risa Bear, I have added this formal name to my personal spelling list as I have with other priests. and priests-in-training, and I consider these videos essential in my training as a lay person. Thank you for being an accomplished poet. My training as Haiku. and Sonnet practictioner has been underway since I entered these threads. However, my training at Colorado State Universith was primarily in free verse. I know that Robert Frost considered free verse like playing tennis without a net. I purshasd your book, Shonin Risa Bear, a truly beautiful Zen poetry book of a house holder, hut holder. I am a House Holder, too, but really the house belongs to my wife. In my book Medititations on Gratitude, I wrote a progression of poetry toward a point of denying suicide. In my last poem I will undieing love for my wife, "Marjorie/ Give all to Marjorie." I portraed in the second poem before my last, Brian who disappears has asked me to have coffee before he leaves for North Dakota. I am schedueled to work at my volunteer job. He begs me, but I say "no" not knowing what this means. His sister calls later to say he took his own life. Fiinally in my mid-sixtiys, I renounce suicide, suicide my exit at the last, this shortly before I entered Treeleaf. I was stuned with his death, and at the funeral his sister gives me his 22-year madallion. I had given this Brian to mark his anniversary of sobriey. When this happens at the funeral, I begin to cry, for I had asked for the madalion from my good friend. She makes sure I recieve this marker in his life. It's odd, but people like me often say that their only goal is to die sober. Often I think of Brian. and I think to myself, "Yes, he died sober!" I find meanining in his tragedy, for I had given Brian this chip. Today I say, "My goal to die a natural death, and die I want to be sober." Until the end I want to be there for my family. My wife and I are close. We care deeply about each other. In the final poem I explain in beautiful language, I will everything to my wife, everthing I own. All my love is my greatest gift. I want most to die sober for myself and for her. In these videos, and even with our own Treeleaf Zendo priests, what happens at time of death? Are they married, and will someone mourn for them? Certainly they will die sober, for we take vows to undetake toe Precepts. William Carlos Williams writes of the dead body in one of his poems. Is the body an ugly thing? Is that why many cremate the bodies? Brian was cremated. He had little to leave his lady friend. Did the family take all. My wife will mourn for me. Brian spoke often of his lady friend, "My lady friend." I never met her, but Brian was very Ill with a nerve disorder. When I think of Brian, I feel that people like me are like Zen Priests because each year claim humility at our "Birthday," I am 33-years old though 69 and in a creamony we recieve our madallions marking that year. Sometimes poety is read, often passages from the Book which has helped us to stay sober. Most of my madallions I gave to the club, not from 25 on. I love my wife and she will get everythig, not my madallions which will go back to the club. What happens to the belongings of monks and priests? Do they give all to Zendos, does someone mark the passing? Who gets the belongings? Nothing in any video has told if this is natural passing, and, of course, who will mourn.
              Gassho
              sat/ lah
              Tai Shi
              Last edited by Tai Shi; 01-29-2021, 08:21 PM. Reason: concision, spelling. my grammar checker says 9+ errors.
              Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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              • Shonin Risa Bear
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                • Apr 2019
                • 923

                #8
                You are very kind, Tai shi. Concerning the matter of belongings of the deceased, here in the West it is all about wills and families, perhaps elsewhere as well, but historically there were strict rules about it in the Ch'an and Zen monasteries. A sample (going well beyond three sentences here) from the Chanyuan Quinggui:

                A placard is hung announcing the auction of the deceased monk’s possessions to the assembly. While the bell is rung, everyone enters the hall. First, there is chanting for the deceased monk, then the chief seat is invited to examine the seal of the deceased’s property before opening it in front of the assembly. The possessions should be displayed in the hall before the bell is rung. The items are auctioned one at a time, after which the rector again leads the chanting .... Other than the enlightenment that comes with spiritual cultivation, which is the chief goal for all those who have renounced the world, monks should seek to acquire nothing but their clothes and a bowl. They should not accumulate property, which leads to avarice. A monk should prevent the possibility that, on the day of the auction after his death, the assembly will sit too long and become distressed because of the excessive number of belongings to be auctioned.
                The idea is that funeral expenses should be recovered, with the remainder going to the needs of the monastery, and perhaps in case of need, to the needs of the surrounding community, with the understanding that there is not much, because a monk should in a sense have had no possessions other than the sun, the moon, and the river. _()_

                gassho
                doyu shonin sat today and lah
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                • Tai Shi
                  Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 3468

                  #9
                  I am beginning to read Snow Country by the Nobel Prize winning Kawabata, is the family name Yasunari? Jundo could tell us. I am impressed so far with description of these Japanese mountains, unreality of stark bare landscape as train resumes with Gishi playing with man ahead, who will find her, Comentary at the beginning of this masterpiece says it is built in structure arounds Haiku, and this is one of Japans greatest modern works of fiction, Haiku is metaphore.
                  sat/ lah
                  Tai shi
                  Last edited by Tai Shi; 01-30-2021, 07:04 AM.
                  Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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                  • Kokuu
                    Dharma Transmitted Priest
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 6926

                    #10
                    I am still reading the Tanahashi/Levitt translation of The Complete Cold Mountain. For anyone else doing this, there is a great series of podcast talks from Upaya in which the authors explore this:

                    Of the many mountain hermits who lived in southeastern China during the Tang dynasty, approximately 1300 years ago, the poet Hanshan (Cold Mountain) may well be the most beloved. Based on the hundreds…


                    Snow Country sounds great, Tai Shi!

                    Gassho
                    Kokuu
                    -sattoday-

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                    • Seikan
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                      • Apr 2020
                      • 710

                      #11
                      Seems like Han Shan/Cold Mountain is proving to still be a popular read around here. Nice!

                      Tai Shi, thanks for the recommendation of Snow Country. That looks like one that I need to add to my wish list.

                      Between an online order and a visit to a favorite used book shop yesterday, I've added the following books to my collection this week (see photo). Now to stop acquiring books and put more time into reading them...

                      Gassho,
                      Seikan

                      -stlah-
                      聖簡 Seikan (Sacred Simplicity)

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                      • Kokuu
                        Dharma Transmitted Priest
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 6926

                        #12
                        Nice choices, Seikan! I have two of those. The Chiyo-ni one has always seemed prohibitively expensive when I have looked.

                        Gassho
                        Kokuu
                        -sattoday-

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                        • Seikan
                          Member
                          • Apr 2020
                          • 710

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kokuu
                          Nice choices, Seikan! I have two of those. The Chiyo-ni one has always seemed prohibitively expensive when I have looked.

                          Gassho
                          Kokuu
                          -sattoday-
                          Kokuu,

                          The Chiyo-ni was an unexpected surprise. Being used (but in mint condition) it was only $8, so I couldn't pass it up. I'll let you know what I think once I get into it.

                          Gassho,
                          Seikan

                          -st-


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                          • Tai Shi
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                            • Oct 2014
                            • 3468

                            #14
                            I've moved over to Being Peace by Thich Nhat Hanh. I am happy. I smile. I breathe out I smile. I breathe in I am happy. Someday I will return to Snow Mountains.
                            Gassho
                            sat/ lah
                            Tai Shi
                            Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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                            • Tai Shi
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                              • Oct 2014
                              • 3468

                              #15
                              I've moved over to Being Peace by Thich Nhat Hanh. I am happy. I smile. I breathe out I smile. I breathe in I am happy. I am Peace. Someday I will return to Snow Country.
                              Gassho
                              sat/ lah
                              Tai Shi
                              Last edited by Tai Shi; 02-07-2021, 04:59 PM. Reason: concision, spelling.
                              Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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