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  • Jishin
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 4821

    #16
    Zen of Creativity Chapter 6

    Originally posted by Jinyo

    Jishin - I love your description of non-linear language - clanging and loose association. Could you give us a few lines - it would be a poem.
    Last night my wife said “better” in a sentence.

    I then started singing

    Is it getting better?
    Or do you feel the same?
    Will it make it easier on you now?
    You got someone to blame

    (“One” from U2)

    Very loose since my only motive here was that the word better was in her sentence and then in my lyrics

    but I had no intent whatsoever in communicating anything.

    It was spontaneous and her better and my better belonged together.

    A lot of times the words may not even be the same.

    One love.

    Other times not so logical.

    Things may rhyme by sounds

    but concepts are absolutely unrelated.

    Maybe bad Jazz, bad Poetry (you have a point)

    or good insanity is the closest to it.

    —- while writing the above the musical notes of the song One where clanging in my head with an influence on this explanation.

    She told me to stop BTW as she was not in the mood.

    It would have sound it better

    If you were there to see it.

    Gasho, Jishin, __/stlah\__
    Last edited by Jishin; 08-11-2019, 02:27 PM.

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    • Kyotai

      #17
      Originally posted by Jishin

      I then started singing

      Is it getting better?
      Or do you feel the same?
      Will it make it easier on you now?
      You got someone to blame

      (“One” from U2)
      I would love to hear Jishin's version of this song! I'm sure your sining is as good as your photography! [emoji3][emoji3]

      Gassho Kyotai
      ST



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      • Jishin
        Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 4821

        #18
        I think it's good. Others strongly disagree.



        Gasho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

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        • Cooperix
          Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 502

          #19
          Ok Jishin, I have to date myself. Better...

          It's getting better all the time
          I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
          The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
          You're holding me down
          Turning me round
          Filling me up with your rules
          I've got to admit it's getting better (Better)
          A little better all the time (It can't get no worse)
          I have to admit it's getting better (Better)
          It's getting better
          Since you've been mine
          Me used to be angry young man
          Me hiding me head in the sand
          You gave me the word, I finally heard
          I'm doing the best that I can
          I've got to admit it's getting better (Better)
          A little better all the time (It can't get no worse)
          I have to admit it's getting better (Better)
          It's getting better
          Since you've been mine
          Getting so much better all the time!


          Making art for me has a moral edge to it. About 30 years ago I cleaned out my studio and ended up throwing away a lot of pieces that I had in storage. It went into our landfill! And I was horrified at myself and decided then and there that I couldn't make any more objects until I had a way of getting them seen. Pretty much I've stuck with that, although I do have a storage room full of artwork (as I suspect most artists do). But I did manage to start showing my work regularly . Which takes time and effort on the part of the artist, time away from the creative aspect of being an artist. But I always make work with the idea and hope that someone somewhere will appreciated it. There are so many objects already in the world. That weighs on me. everyday. Writing has the appeal that I'm not adding to the clutter of our world. But still I can't help myself. I love making objects. And I guess I will until I can't physically any longer.

          Jinyo thanks for your comments. And I agree the art world is wrought. Being an artist is not the art world, but unfortunately its a part of it. Although with the digital revolution, artists are taking care of getting their work out into the world without galleries. I have a gallery/zendo in my studio and can use that for my work, and several times a year other artists show in my space. ACOG http://annecooperstudio.com/ACOG.html

          I love this ...
          I'm often moved by textiles and love ancient embroidery work - all those woman sat stitching day after day - dreams and thoughts and feelings invisibly embedded in stitches.
          When I was a child my grandmother was showing me an old quilt (all hand quilted) she had and she said that "there is a thought in every stitch." I always loved and remembered that image! and you do too...

          So much to think about here everyone. thanks so for the input...

          Gassho
          Anne

          ~lahst~

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          • Jakuden
            Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 6141

            #20
            Originally posted by Cooperix
            Ok Jishin, I have to date myself. Better...

            It's getting better all the time
            I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
            The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
            You're holding me down
            Turning me round
            Filling me up with your rules
            I've got to admit it's getting better (Better)
            A little better all the time (It can't get no worse)
            I have to admit it's getting better (Better)
            It's getting better
            Since you've been mine
            Me used to be angry young man
            Me hiding me head in the sand
            You gave me the word, I finally heard
            I'm doing the best that I can
            I've got to admit it's getting better (Better)
            A little better all the time (It can't get no worse)
            I have to admit it's getting better (Better)
            It's getting better
            Since you've been mine
            Getting so much better all the time!


            Making art for me has a moral edge to it. About 30 years ago I cleaned out my studio and ended up throwing away a lot of pieces that I had in storage. It went into our landfill! And I was horrified at myself and decided then and there that I couldn't make any more objects until I had a way of getting them seen. Pretty much I've stuck with that, although I do have a storage room full of artwork (as I suspect most artists do). But I did manage to start showing my work regularly . Which takes time and effort on the part of the artist, time away from the creative aspect of being an artist. But I always make work with the idea and hope that someone somewhere will appreciated it. There are so many objects already in the world. That weighs on me. everyday. Writing has the appeal that I'm not adding to the clutter of our world. But still I can't help myself. I love making objects. And I guess I will until I can't physically any longer.

            Jinyo thanks for your comments. And I agree the art world is wrought. Being an artist is not the art world, but unfortunately its a part of it. Although with the digital revolution, artists are taking care of getting their work out into the world without galleries. I have a gallery/zendo in my studio and can use that for my work, and several times a year other artists show in my space. ACOG http://annecooperstudio.com/ACOG.html

            I love this ...
            When I was a child my grandmother was showing me an old quilt (all hand quilted) she had and she said that "there is a thought in every stitch." I always loved and remembered that image! and you do too...

            So much to think about here everyone. thanks so for the input...

            Gassho
            Anne

            ~lahst~
            I may not be much use in an art thread but I will always pop in to cheer for a Beatles quote [emoji1][emoji3522]

            Gassho
            Jakuden
            SatToday/LAH


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            • Meitou
              Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 1656

              #21
              Some fabulous stuff coming up in this discussion - it's amazing how broadly we can interpret art, it's part of its magic in my opinion.
              I've been thinking a lot about those few great images...and there are so many that have opened my heart to so much, but not so many that have come immediately to mind over the years.
              The first image I think of always in this context may seem a strange one, but I can see in hindsight how it has influenced me over the years.
              When I started at art school, one of the books for required reading on the foundation course was a very general history of modern art. To me at that time, modern art meant Impressionism and Cubism, I knew of nothing else. The beginning of the book started with the end of the neo-classical period, so we were being shown what we wouldn't be studying, just to understand what an impact the modern art movement had. But one neo classical painting really gripped me - even now I find it difficult to understand what I was responding to - I was all about the modern, so why be so taken with this painting - The Oath of the Horatii, by Jacques Louis David, painted in 1784.

              Oath of the Horatii.jpg

              So what did I love about this painting? There was something striking and powerful in the absolute simplicity of the image - the three brothers willing to sacrifice their lives for Rome, their father holding aloft their swords, the grieving women, particularly the weeping figure of the brothers' sister, who is also betrothed to one of the three enemies they will be fighting - she's in a no-win hopeless situation. But at the time I didn't really understand the ramifications of the connection between masculinity and patriotism; what I was reading here was the futility of violence, the inevitable tragedy being played out central stage. But perhaps what struck me more was the beauty of the scene - the beautiful pared down use of colour, the wonderfully dramatic effect of light and dark, the technical prowess of David in his layout and composition of the scene. It all just sang to me.
              Just before starting my art course, I went with some friends on holiday to Paris, a weeks camping in Versailles ( no such thing as gap years back then!) and we visited Paris daily. I was so excited to see the Oath of the Horatii in real life where it hangs in the Louvre, but was completely unprepared for the sheer scale of the painting, it's huge, amazing, overpowering. I've never seen it again, but glimpsed it briefly in odd circumstances - I happened to be idly watching Ron Howards The Da Vinci Code, when I noticed Tom Hanks run by the painting as he chased through the Louvre - it was the highlight of the film for me.
              I can understand today that it was the apparent powerful simplicity of this painting that really resonated with me - all of the art that I've really loved over the years has had this quality - in fact it was the same simplicity I found in Japanese art that was partly responsible for me being here writing in this forum today - from strange acorns does the Dharma oak grow!

              Anne, I love the idea of making art in the hope that someone somewhere will like it - I don't think I've ever fully appreciated that idea, so caught up have I been in not wanting to show what I do to other people. I'm finding this idea really inspiring and so refreshing, especially when so many artists I follow on social media seem so bent on number crunching, painting to sell ( to match room colour schemes) etc. I like the idea of just putting stuff out there and hoping someone will like it, maybe even be inspired to do something themselves. It's given me new impetus, thank you.

              Gassho
              Meitou
              sattodaylah
              命 Mei - life
              島 Tou - island

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              • Kyotai

                #22
                I am inspired by photos that tell a story or capture stillness in nature..especially in places that seem ordinary or plain. One of my teachers in photography taught composition this way. Find a shot worth taking in a seemingly ordinary space..where others would walk by and not even notice. Finding the beauty in the ordinary.

                This type of photography not only trains my brain to find the shot..but also to be more present in each monent.

                Below are a few moments in nature I captured that opened my heart and mind to the moment.

                Gassho Kyotai
                ST

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                • Jishin
                  Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 4821

                  #23
                  Great photos Kyotai!

                  Gasho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

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                  • Cooperix
                    Member
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 502

                    #24
                    I love those Kyokai. Amazing images. I too have a fondness for capturing the mundane. I draw seeds, roots, insect parts etc. for that very reason to celebrate the beauty of the ordinary. You do so in a way that defines the beauty and magic of the overlooked! Thank you.

                    And Jinyo, we will slow down a bit. Although the previous chapter posts can still be visited and anyone is welcome to respond. Meitou and I monitor them! We'll move onto chapter 7 probably the end of next week. There is so much to digest here I realize that it's more fun to let the images, thoughts, ideas sit a bit before rushing on. So thanks for that suggestion.

                    bows,
                    Anne

                    ~lahst~

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                    • krissydear
                      Member
                      • Jul 2019
                      • 90

                      #25
                      Hi friends,

                      This is all so wonderful, and I love reading everyone's work so far.

                      I don't mean to interrupt or derail, but I just purchased the book. Should I work from this chapter backwards? or should I start from here and participate going forward? I would like to do the prompts from the first 5 chapters and share, but I don't want to post in those threads if we have moved past it.

                      thank you

                      Gassho
                      Krissy
                      sat today/lah
                      Thank you for teaching me.

                      I am very much a beginner and appreciate any words you may give me.

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                      • Kyotai

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Jishin
                        Great photos Kyotai!

                        Gasho, Jishin, __/stlah\__
                        Originally posted by Cooperix
                        I love those Kyokai. Amazing images. I too have a fondness for capturing the mundane. I draw seeds, roots, insect parts etc. for that very reason to celebrate the beauty of the ordinary. You do so in a way that defines the beauty and magic of the overlooked! Thank you.

                        And Jinyo, we will slow down a bit. Although the previous chapter posts can still be visited and anyone is welcome to respond. Meitou and I monitor them! We'll move onto chapter 7 probably the end of next week. There is so much to digest here I realize that it's more fun to let the images, thoughts, ideas sit a bit before rushing on. So thanks for that suggestion.

                        bows,
                        Anne

                        ~lahst~
                        Thank you

                        Gassho Kyotai
                        ST

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                        • Meitou
                          Member
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 1656

                          #27
                          Originally posted by krissydear
                          Hi friends,

                          This is all so wonderful, and I love reading everyone's work so far.

                          I don't mean to interrupt or derail, but I just purchased the book. Should I work from this chapter backwards? or should I start from here and participate going forward? I would like to do the prompts from the first 5 chapters and share, but I don't want to post in those threads if we have moved past it.

                          thank you

                          Gassho
                          Krissy
                          sat today/lah
                          HI Krissy,
                          So glad to have you with us, please do post in whatever way works best for you. We've come to realise that there's still so much to be got out of the discussions and prompts so it's fine to go back and forth as you wish. I'd suggest that now you have the book, start from the beginning and read up to this chapter, then decide which prompts inspire you and take it from there. Looking forward to your contributions and thank you!
                          Lovely images Kyotai, that fern is particularly stunning. Beauty comes in so many forms.
                          Bows
                          Meitou
                          sattoday lah
                          命 Mei - life
                          島 Tou - island

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                          • Jishin
                            Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4821

                            #28
                            Here's a cool one:

                            Gasho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

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                            • Jishin
                              Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 4821

                              #29
                              Water is cool.

                              Gasho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

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                              • Jinyo
                                Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 1957

                                #30
                                Inspiring thread !

                                I'm not familiar with that painting Meitou but it's really interesting. It's almost like human emotions are cut in half - male bravery one
                                side of the painting, female tenderness and emotionality the other. Very striking.

                                Kyotai and Jishin terrific images from nature. I need to go out in my garden today and spend some quiet time just 'looking'. There are many ferns,
                                dragonflies just now. I love the close up of water droplets too.

                                Welcome Krissy - just take your time with the reading - no need to rush - it's good that we can go back and forth between threads.

                                Gassho

                                Jinyo

                                will sit today - hopefully in the garden.

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