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  • Washin
    Treeleaf Unsui
    • Dec 2014
    • 3794

    Tonglen day/time possible alterations

    Hello Treeleafers,

    It is noticed that our Tonglen Practice Circle is currently having almost a zero attendance.
    Besides the reasons like spring-summer time slack due to members possibly would like to
    be more active outdoors instead of sitting inside on weekends, we suppose this might also be
    the inconvenience of the day and time set for the event.
    We would like everyone interested in this Practice to comment on this thread which of the day
    and time would be more suitable for them so that we could work out a better option for all.
    Would, say, Saturday work better than Sunday?

    The picture of today is:

    Every last Sunday of the month and times are as follows:

    UK (BST) - 8pm
    Western Europe - 9pm
    Eastern Europe - 10pm
    EDT - 3pm
    CDT - 2pm
    MDT - 1pm
    PDT - 12pm
    AKDT - 11am
    Tokyo - 5am (Monday)

    Thank you for your practice.

    Gassho,
    Washin on behalf of Kokuu
    sat today
    Last edited by Washin; 06-06-2019, 12:42 PM.
    Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
    Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
    ----
    I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
    and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.
  • Meitou
    Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 1656

    #2
    Washin I am fine with evening any time, but Sunday is always tricky for me, so if I had a choice, any evening except Sunday. (I think we're in the same time zone)
    Gassho
    Meitou
    Satwithyoualltoday lah
    命 Mei - life
    島 Tou - island

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    • Washin
      Treeleaf Unsui
      • Dec 2014
      • 3794

      #3
      Originally posted by Meitou
      Washin I am fine with evening any time, but Sunday is always tricky for me, so if I had a choice, any evening except Sunday. (I think we're in the same time zone)
      Gassho
      Meitou
      Satwithyoualltoday lah
      Thank you for the reply, Meitou. Most possibly we will be moving the event to be held on Saturdays
      at around 5-6pm EET. You are always welcome to join

      Gassho,
      Washin
      ST
      Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
      Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
      ----
      I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
      and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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      • Tai Do
        Member
        • Jan 2019
        • 1457

        #4
        Hi Washin,
        I have interest in tonglen, but don’t know how to practice it and weekends are a little difficult to me (wife and pets reserved days), but I’m working on it. If if moves to Saturday, I’ll try to participate but can’t promise.
        I also have some questions regarding tonglen:
        Do tonglen require a specific sitting position? What mudra should I use? Do a have to sit zazen before or after tonglen, or are they independent from one another?
        Thank you very much!
        Gassho,
        Mateus
        Sat/LAH
        怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
        (also known as Mateus )

        禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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        • Washin
          Treeleaf Unsui
          • Dec 2014
          • 3794

          #5
          Originally posted by mateus.baldin
          Hi Washin,
          I have interest in tonglen, but don’t know how to practice it and weekends are a little difficult to me (wife and pets reserved days), but I’m working on it. If if moves to Saturday, I’ll try to participate but can’t promise.
          I also have some questions regarding tonglen:
          Do tonglen require a specific sitting position? What mudra should I use? Do a have to sit zazen before or after tonglen, or are they independent from one another?
          Thank you very much!
          Gassho,
          Mateus
          Sat/LAH
          Hi Mateus,

          Tonglen is a simple practice. It does not require a specific position. We sit in a regular Zazen posture holding our cosmic mudra. Normally we do not practice Tonglen during Zazen as we sit shikantaza, however, in our sessions particularly, we do Zazen for the first 10 minutes and then we continue with practicing Tonglen for the rest of time (20 minutes).

          In the below thread you may find the detailed instructions on how to tonglen written by Kokuu some time ago: https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/show...e-Instructions

          You are welcome to participate at any time you are up to!

          Gassho
          Washin
          sat-lah
          Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
          Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
          ----
          I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
          and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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          • Tai Do
            Member
            • Jan 2019
            • 1457

            #6
            Thank you, Washin.
            I’ll try to participate with you all.
            Gassho,
            Mateus
            Sat/LAH
            怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
            (also known as Mateus )

            禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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            • Dan
              Member
              • Jun 2018
              • 30

              #7
              Hello Washin,
              I would like to participate if the schedule changes Saturday would be much better than Sunday.

              Kind regards,

              Dan
              Satlah

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              • Washin
                Treeleaf Unsui
                • Dec 2014
                • 3794

                #8
                Hi everyone,

                Thank you for the above comments. The next event will be on Saturday, June 29th and
                the new times are:

                UK (BST) - 3pm
                Western Europe - 4pm
                Eastern Europe - 5pm
                EDT - 10am
                CDT - 9am
                MDT - 8am
                PDT - 7am
                AKDT - 6am
                Tokyo - 11pm

                Everyone is welcome!

                Gassho,
                Washin
                st/lah
                Last edited by Washin; 06-17-2019, 08:36 AM.
                Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                ----
                I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                • Meitou
                  Member
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 1656

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Washin
                  Hi everyone,

                  Thank you for the above comments. The next event will be on Saturday, June 29th and
                  the new times are:

                  UK (BST) - 3pm
                  Western Europe - 4pm
                  Eastern Europe - 5pm
                  EDT - 10am
                  CDT - 9am
                  MDT - 8am
                  PDT - 7am
                  AKDT - 6am
                  Tokyo - 11pm

                  Everyone is welcome!

                  Gassho,
                  Washin
                  st/lah
                  Thank you Washin, that may be a better day for me in the future - however on the 29th I shall be at my niece's wedding in the UK, so next time!
                  Gassho
                  Meitou
                  sattodaylah
                  命 Mei - life
                  島 Tou - island

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                  • Onka
                    Member
                    • May 2019
                    • 1575

                    #10
                    Hi Washin
                    I will try to join you. It will be 6am on Monday for me in Queensland, Australia.
                    Gassho, Anna
                    穏 On (Calm)
                    火 Ka (Fires)
                    They/She.

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                    • Tai Do
                      Member
                      • Jan 2019
                      • 1457

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Washin
                      Hi everyone,

                      Thank you for the above comments. The next event will be on Saturday, June 29th and
                      the new times are:

                      UK (BST) - 3pm
                      Western Europe - 4pm
                      Eastern Europe - 5pm
                      EDT - 10am
                      CDT - 9am
                      MDT - 8am
                      PDT - 7am
                      AKDT - 6am
                      Tokyo - 11pm

                      Everyone is welcome!

                      Gassho,
                      Washin
                      st/lah
                      Hi Washin.
                      I joined today, but. It sure if it really were the Tonglen Practice Circle or a zazen scheduled sitting. I get a little lost in the conversion from the timezones above to BRL, as I don’t know if there is a daylight saving that I must account for. I sat at 11am BRL, converting from Tokyo 11pm, as I know my time zone is the opposite of that, but if there is a daylight saving in Japan, My conversion was wrong.
                      Hope I was at the right sitting. Sat Tonglen anyway.
                      Gassho,
                      Mateus
                      Sat today
                      怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
                      (also known as Mateus )

                      禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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                      • Meian
                        Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 1722

                        #12
                        I practice Tonglen on my own fairly often, but I somehow usually miss the Tonglen threads and announcements. I'll look into that problem, but with my family and frequently changing work schedules, it has been difficult for me to attend scheduled practice times. I'm in EDT but I work internationally, so I tend to "time-zone hop" frequently and weekends aren't any easier.

                        When I have a moment I will look to see if you do videos that I can "sit Tonglen" with you at another time, even if I can't be there with you live.

                        gassho
                        kim
                        st lh
                        鏡道 |​ Kyodo (Meian) | "Mirror of the Way"
                        visiting Unsui
                        Nothing I say is a teaching, it's just my own opinion.

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                        • Washin
                          Treeleaf Unsui
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 3794

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mateus.baldin
                          Hi Washin.
                          I joined today, but. It sure if it really were the Tonglen Practice Circle or a zazen scheduled sitting. I get a little lost in the conversion from the timezones above to BRL, as I don’t know if there is a daylight saving that I must account for. I sat at 11am BRL, converting from Tokyo 11pm, as I know my time zone is the opposite of that, but if there is a daylight saving in Japan, My conversion was wrong.
                          Hope I was at the right sitting. Sat Tonglen anyway.
                          Gassho,
                          Mateus
                          Sat today
                          Hi Mateus,

                          The Tonglen circle of 29th June didn't in fact happen as I had to be off that time.
                          Sorry for not notifying all concerned timely and thank you for sitting Tonglen anyway.

                          Gassho
                          Washin
                          sat today
                          Last edited by Washin; 07-18-2019, 12:52 PM.
                          Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                          Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
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                          I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                          and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                          • Washin
                            Treeleaf Unsui
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 3794

                            #14
                            Originally posted by allwhowander
                            I practice Tonglen on my own fairly often, but I somehow usually miss the Tonglen threads and announcements. I'll look into that problem, but with my family and frequently changing work schedules, it has been difficult for me to attend scheduled practice times. I'm in EDT but I work internationally, so I tend to "time-zone hop" frequently and weekends aren't any easier.

                            When I have a moment I will look to see if you do videos that I can "sit Tonglen" with you at another time, even if I can't be there with you live.

                            gassho
                            kim
                            st lh
                            Hi Kim,

                            Thank you for the comment. Currently we do not record each session though
                            we plan to start doing it in the future.
                            Meanwhile you're most welcome to join in when you can.

                            Gassho
                            Washin
                            ST
                            Last edited by Washin; 07-18-2019, 12:53 PM.
                            Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                            Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                            ----
                            I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                            and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                            • Washin
                              Treeleaf Unsui
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 3794

                              #15
                              Dear all,

                              The next event will be on Saturday, July 27th and the times are:

                              UK (BST) - 3pm
                              Western Europe - 4pm
                              Eastern Europe - 5pm
                              EDT - 10am
                              CDT - 9am
                              MDT - 8am
                              PDT - 7am
                              AKDT - 6am
                              Tokyo - 11pm

                              Further announcement to follow.

                              Everyone is welcome!

                              Gassho,
                              Washin
                              st/lah
                              Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                              Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                              ----
                              I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                              and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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