[HealthDharma] Zen Practice with Serious Health Issues

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  • Kokuu
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Nov 2012
    • 7278

    #16
    Absolutely beautifully expresssed, Kojiki.

    Many thanks and deep bows

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    • Shonin Risa Bear
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 931

      #17
      Yes. That's the best have seen it said. Finding to resent the path "my" heart and kidneys have taken is ... dualistic ...

      sat, some lah around here somewhere, sho

      Visiting priest: use salt

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      • Kiri
        Member
        • Apr 2019
        • 354

        #18
        Simply beautiful!
        Gassho, Kiri
        Sat/Lah
        希 rare
        理 principle
        (Nikolas)

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        • Shinkon
          Novice Priest-in-Training
          • Jan 2024
          • 88

          #19
          Kojitsu!

          Although I cannot relate to your conditions, my MS, severe sciatica, spinal stenosis and arthritis cause pain and suffering that is also part of my life's practice. Lately, I seemed to have drowned in the fatigue and pain from my move. Although I have an excellent support network at Treeleaf and with friends, my morale. suffered. Sometimes, I began to think that my daily zazen became an act of avoidance. This is my practice that tends a garden.
          I wish you and your loved well! Your practice is definitely a beacon.
          Gassho,
          Shinkon
          satlah

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          • Fâtih
            Member
            • Feb 2020
            • 68

            #20
            Dear Kojitsu,

            I was deeply inspired by your article. Especially your assertion that zazen offers intimacy, not a solution. With this insight, I sat in zazen today with a new understanding. I did not fight the OCD that had haunted me for 21 years, but welcomed it wholeheartedly. Thank you so much for teaching me this.

            Gassho
            Fâtih
            Sat/lah

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            • Kojitsu
              Novice Priest-in-Training
              • Mar 2024
              • 336

              #21
              Originally posted by Shonin Risa Bear
              Yes. That's the best have seen it said. Finding to resent the path "my" heart and kidneys have taken is ... dualistic ...

              sat, some lah around here somewhere, sho


              Thank you for reading it,

              st/lah
              kojitsu

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              • Kojitsu
                Novice Priest-in-Training
                • Mar 2024
                • 336

                #22
                Originally posted by Kiri
                Simply beautiful!
                Gassho, Kiri
                Sat/Lah


                Thank you kind sir.

                st/lah
                kojitsu

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                • Kojitsu
                  Novice Priest-in-Training
                  • Mar 2024
                  • 336

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shinkon
                  Kojitsu!

                  Although I cannot relate to your conditions, my MS, severe sciatica, spinal stenosis and arthritis cause pain and suffering that is also part of my life's practice. Lately, I seemed to have drowned in the fatigue and pain from my move. Although I have an excellent support network at Treeleaf and with friends, my morale. suffered. Sometimes, I began to think that my daily zazen became an act of avoidance. This is my practice that tends a garden.
                  I wish you and your loved well! Your practice is definitely a beacon.
                  Gassho,
                  Shinkon
                  satlah
                  Wow, thank you for your thoughtful replay. If the story of my challenges help others in anyway, they were never challenges, just opportunities to share our practices

                  st/lah
                  kojitsu

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                  • Kojitsu
                    Novice Priest-in-Training
                    • Mar 2024
                    • 336

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Fâtih
                    Dear Kojitsu,

                    I was deeply inspired by your article. Especially your assertion that zazen offers intimacy, not a solution. With this insight, I sat in zazen today with a new understanding. I did not fight the OCD that had haunted me for 21 years, but welcomed it wholeheartedly. Thank you so much for teaching me this.

                    Gassho
                    Fâtih
                    Sat/lah


                    thank you so much for sharing that Fâtih, that’s really makes me so happy that my minor contribution could help you, I’m honored by your words.

                    St/lah
                    kojitsu

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                    • Koriki
                      Novice Priest-in-Training
                      • Apr 2022
                      • 456

                      #25
                      Koji,

                      Thank you for this post. Very well written and insightful. There are many challenges in dealing with chronic and acute illness and your perspective on practicing in these circumstances sets a great example. Although I may feel like I'm dying when my symptoms are bad, I am likely not going to in that moment. The existential threat that you are normally under, and especially these past few months, adds a whole other element to your practice that is so valuable (although I would very much prefer that you not have to learn that). For me, it's still challenging to not think that things should be otherwise and to think about what I have missed out on over the past 8 years. But that is the second arrow and part of my practice is on not getting hit by it. As much as I wouldn't wish chronic illness on myself or anyone else it sure can provide a learning opportunity. You have clearly learned a lot.

                      Gassho,
                      Koriki

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                      • Kojitsu
                        Novice Priest-in-Training
                        • Mar 2024
                        • 336

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Koriki
                        Koji,

                        Thank you for this post. Very well written and insightful. There are many challenges in dealing with chronic and acute illness and your perspective on practicing in these circumstances sets a great example. Although I may feel like I'm dying when my symptoms are bad, I am likely not going to in that moment. The existential threat that you are normally under, and especially these past few months, adds a whole other element to your practice that is so valuable (although I would very much prefer that you not have to learn that). For me, it's still challenging to not think that things should be otherwise and to think about what I have missed out on over the past 8 years. But that is the second arrow and part of my practice is on not getting hit by it. As much as I wouldn't wish chronic illness on myself or anyone else it sure can provide a learning opportunity. You have clearly learned a lot.

                        Gassho,
                        Koriki
                        Thank you so much for that, you are someone that checks in on me to make sure I’m doing well, and provides me with advice just when I needed to hear it.

                        That is one aspect I should have written about as well, what to do if you’re the one that’s not experiencing these difficulties, but have people you know that are? It’s simple, call them, visit them, just listen to them. Some people have said things like “well, I didn’t want to bother you” or “I was planning to call you when you were better.” Well, as a sick person I have to ask, if not now, then when? If the answer is that you are uncomfortable around people that are suffering, how are you going to feel when it’s your turn to be in the bed,? Your only company is old TV reruns? I’m not trying to wag my finger at anyone, but making a call or texting someone only costs you a couple of minutes in your day, knowing there are people that care enough to spend those minutes with you instead, means the world.



                        st/lah
                        kojitsu

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                        • benmason
                          Member
                          • Aug 2025
                          • 4

                          #27
                          Kojitsu,

                          Reading this post has shed more light on the concept of practice than I have found through all my study so far. I really don't think I'll sit the same way again - thank you deeply.



                          -Ben

                          SatToday
                          LAH

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                          • Kojitsu
                            Novice Priest-in-Training
                            • Mar 2024
                            • 336

                            #28
                            Originally posted by benmason
                            Kojitsu,

                            Reading this post has shed more light on the concept of practice than I have found through all my study so far. I really don't think I'll sit the same way again - thank you deeply.



                            -Ben

                            SatToday
                            LAH
                            Thank you for reading it and your kind words, it means a lot.

                            st/lah
                            gassho
                            kojitsu

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