[HealthDharma] Work-Arounds!!

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  • Ankai
    Treeleaf Unsui
    • Nov 2007
    • 1002

    [HealthDharma] Work-Arounds!!

    Hi!

    Let's get a thread going about how we can practice WITH our various conditions. Someone may just come up with an idea or suggestion that makes all the difference in the world to someone else!

    For example, with Parkinsons, I almost always have to sit on a stool or bench, and I've found one that works perfectly.

    On a less obvious level, I have hand tremors, particularly on the left side. That can be frustrating because when ol' lefty decides to start dancing around during zazen, it can be very distracting. I tried for a long time to "control" it, but found I was just thinking about my hand the whole time. Then I tried just.. you know... letting 'er rip! Let that hand go ahead and jiggle and twitch if it wants! (That was worse, and looked really weird.)

    Know what? I was WAY too focused on "doing it right," and that was keeping me from just... sitting. The simple solution? Hand position. If it starts to go, all I really need to do is interlace my fingers. That holds it still, and I can regain my focus and sit properly.

    I think we do that, especially as "beginners..." We get so caught up in the "stuff..." Is my posture perfect? Are my feet at the right position? Am I swallowing too much? Am I supposed to blink like this? Wait... was that breath number seven or eight... oh, hell... one... tewo... thr... WOW! My foot's asleep! Did I leave the iron on? No no no... that's a thought... ok. Breathe in. One. Two... I have an itch. Do I scratch the itch? Wait... what number was that...

    ... you get it. We lose the whole plot. And, for those of us with some different needs or abilities, it gets even wierder... like... "Wait... doe it even 'count' if I do it this way instead?"

    IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LIKE THAT.

    For those of us who have certain difficulties or limitations, adaptations can be made. As a character once said in a movie, "It's a big world, friend. If it doesn't fit, you make alterations!"

    SO. Do you have a "work-around" you've found that helps you out? Share it! It may be just the thing for someone else! Or, do you have any issues you'd like to discuss and find possible solutions for?

    I'd love to hear, and maybe we can help each other!

    Come on in! Have a seat!

    Sat today.
    Comfortably!

    Lent A Hand. Gonna try to do more.

    Not a teacher, just another learner, trying to find and share a little traction in an otherwise slippery environment!
    Last edited by Jundo; 02-26-2024, 12:04 AM.
    Gassho!
    護道 安海


    -Godo Ankai

    I'm still just starting to learn. I'm not a teacher. Please don't take anything I say too seriously. I already take myself too seriously!
  • Alina
    Member
    • Jul 2023
    • 181

    #2
    Hi Ankai, thank you for starting this thread! It took me a loooong time to realize that

    IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LIKE THAT.
    My struggles have been mostly on the mental-emotional side of zazen, I was "stuck in my head" and could not stop being carried away in a rush of thoughts, worries, memories, list of to-dos... I was trying to practice shikantaza as soon as I sat on the zafu, and it was pointless, my mind was running so fast sometimes that I was mostly just spiraling down some days.

    So now I sit, bow, and I do a "body scan", I breath in and out of each part of my body, slow, deep breaths in and out, from head to toes. This really helps me to stop, to come back to the present moment, to be in the body, in touch with the body and the breath, and then I start shikantaza. Thoughts still come and go, but now they come at a speed that is "manageable", so I can finally "open the hand of thought".


    Gassho
    Alina
    stlah

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    • Shonin Risa Bear
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 924

      #3
      If I cannot do what I had hoped, what, if undertaken sincerely, is not also a contribution?

      "If you only have wild grasses with which to make a broth, do not disdain them. If you have ingredients for a creamy soup do not be delighted. Where there is no attachment, there can be no aversion. Do not be careless with poor ingredients and do not depend on fine ingredients to do your work for you but work with everything with the same sincerity. If you do not do so then it is like changing your behaviour according to the status of the person you meet; this is not how a student of the Way is" --Dogen, Tenzo Kyokun

      gassho
      ds sat (more or less horizontally) and lah (through the keyboard)
      Visiting priest: use salt

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      • Ankai
        Treeleaf Unsui
        • Nov 2007
        • 1002

        #4
        My struggles have been mostly on the mental-emotional side of zazen, I was "stuck in my head" and could not stop being carried away in a rush of thoughts, worries, memories, list of to-dos... I was trying to practice shikantaza as soon as I sat on the zafu, and it was pointless, my mind was running so fast sometimes that I was mostly just spiraling down some days.

        It sounds like you've figured out a great way to "get you there!"
        Awesome!
        One thing that was suggested to me was to sit, and when thoughts arise, think of them like cars passing by as you sit on your porch. You know they're there, they come and go, but you don't go with them, or give them a lot of notice or attention as they pass.
        I'm not offering that as a "teaching" or anything... it's just something that works for me.
        It's great that you've figured this stuff out!

        ST
        LAH
        Gassho!
        護道 安海


        -Godo Ankai

        I'm still just starting to learn. I'm not a teacher. Please don't take anything I say too seriously. I already take myself too seriously!

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        • Ankai
          Treeleaf Unsui
          • Nov 2007
          • 1002

          #5
          If you only have wild grasses with which to make a broth, do not disdain them. If you have ingredients for a creamy soup do not be delighted. Where there is no attachment, there can be no aversion. Do not be careless with poor ingredients and do not depend on fine ingredients to do your work for you but work with everything with the same sincerity. If you do not do so then it is like changing your behaviour according to the status of the person you meet; this is not how a student of the Way is" --Dogen, Tenzo Kyokun

          Awesome, Shonin!
          "We cook our meal with the ingredients we have, not what we wish we had, and we don't decide not to eat because we have turnips instead of steak!"- Tetsugen Bernie Glassman

          ST
          LAH
          Gassho!
          護道 安海


          -Godo Ankai

          I'm still just starting to learn. I'm not a teacher. Please don't take anything I say too seriously. I already take myself too seriously!

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          • Alina
            Member
            • Jul 2023
            • 181

            #6
            Originally posted by Ankai
            My struggles have been mostly on the mental-emotional side of zazen, I was "stuck in my head" and could not stop being carried away in a rush of thoughts, worries, memories, list of to-dos... I was trying to practice shikantaza as soon as I sat on the zafu, and it was pointless, my mind was running so fast sometimes that I was mostly just spiraling down some days.

            It sounds like you've figured out a great way to "get you there!"
            Awesome!
            One thing that was suggested to me was to sit, and when thoughts arise, think of them like cars passing by as you sit on your porch. You know they're there, they come and go, but you don't go with them, or give them a lot of notice or attention as they pass.
            I'm not offering that as a "teaching" or anything... it's just something that works for me.
            It's great that you've figured this stuff out!

            ST
            LAH
            It's not about "getting somewhere", doing a body scan first helps me to slow down enough to be able to practice. Following the image of cars passing by, imagine the difference between a more or less quiet street, with cars coming and going, and a street in a catastrophe movie where all cars are trying to escape from a monster or a fire, a completely noisy chaos where it's hard to differentiate what is going on. That is how my mind feels some days, and that's why I added a body scan as an opening to my zazen practice. Slowly it quiets down until I can be here, now, and remain there for a bit, just breathing.

            By the way, my favorite image when thoughts come back is from this video from Jundo's Sit-a-Long for beginners, it has helped me immensely:
            In Zazen, thoughts come and go. We simply learn to not grab onto them, not to get tangled in long trains and tangles of thought that pull us in. We do not see to be completely free of thoughts, but rather, 10,000 times and 10,000 times again ... we gently, quietly, let go. We call this "opening the hand of thought."



            Gassho,
            Alina
            stlah

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            • Ankai
              Treeleaf Unsui
              • Nov 2007
              • 1002

              #7
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              Here's something that works for me. With my medical issues, sometimes sitting on the cushion simply isn't possible. What I found that works is a very inexpensive shower stool that I got at the local pharmacy. It adjusts to the right height, it comes apart and is very easy to travel with, and it's the perfect size for a zafu.
              Not spending time thinking about HOW to sit is invaluable!

              ST
              LAH
              Last edited by Ankai; 02-10-2024, 03:43 AM.
              Gassho!
              護道 安海


              -Godo Ankai

              I'm still just starting to learn. I'm not a teacher. Please don't take anything I say too seriously. I already take myself too seriously!

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              • Seiko
                Treeleaf Unsui
                • Jul 2020
                • 1051

                #8
                Originally posted by Shōnin Risa Bear
                If I cannot do what I had hoped, what, if undertaken sincerely, is not also a contribution?

                "If you only have wild grasses with which to make a broth, do not disdain them. If you have ingredients for a creamy soup do not be delighted. Where there is no attachment, there can be no aversion. Do not be careless with poor ingredients and do not depend on fine ingredients to do your work for you but work with everything with the same sincerity. If you do not do so then it is like changing your behaviour according to the status of the person you meet; this is not how a student of the Way is" --Dogen, Tenzo Kyokun

                gassho
                ds sat (more or less horizontally) and lah (through the keyboard)


                Gasshō
                Seiko
                stlah
                Gandō Seiko
                頑道清光
                (Stubborn Way of Pure Light)

                My street name is 'Al'.

                Any words I write here are merely the thoughts of an apprentice priest, just my opinions, that's all.

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