The Twenty-ninth of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

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  • Shokai
    Treeleaf Priest
    • Mar 2009
    • 6393

    The Twenty-ninth of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

    29) The Twenty-ninth Gate: Repayment of Kindness.

    Repayment of kindness is a gate of Dharma illumination; for [with it] we do not cheat and disregard others.(Nishijima/Cross)

    Repaying another person’s kindness is a gate of realizing Dharma; it does not ignore the debt.(Tanahashi)

    Gate Gatha:
    May we, together with all buddhas;
    Be generous in our relationships,
    That we may not cheat and disregard others.

    Reflection Prompts:

    1. We do not always get to directly repay Kindnessses, does that matter??

    2. Do you feel that not cheating and/or disregarding others is different from Ignoring the debt?

    3. Rewrite either of the verses

    Capping Verse:
    Kindness is received
    Only so
    We know how to give

    gassho, Shokai
    stlah
    合掌,生開
    gassho, Shokai

    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

    https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/
  • aprapti
    Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 889

    #2



    aprapti


    sat

    hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

    Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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    • Tai Do
      Member
      • Jan 2019
      • 1451

      #3
      Thank you, Shokai, for bringin us the Twenty-Ninth Gate.


      1. We do not always get to directly repay Kindnessses, does that matter??
      Repaying kindness bring us closer to others and stimulate even more kindness in the world. In this way, it does matter; even though, from the Absolute point of view, there is no kindness to be repayed, no debt to ignore.


      2. Do you feel that not cheating and/or disregarding others is different from Ignoring the debt?
      Cheating here seems to be the same as ignoring the debt, for we are not giving others what they deserve after the good done. In this sente, they are not different.


      3. Rewrite either of the verses
      Kindness received
      Kindness returned
      Kannon's thousand hands


      Gassho,
      Tai Do (Mateus)
      Satlah
      怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
      (also known as Mateus )

      禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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      • Lizbeth792
        Member
        • Oct 2022
        • 1

        #4
        Gate 29 Reflection Questions

        1. We do not always get to directly repay Kindnessses, does that matter??
        It does. While it’s not possible to repay every single kindness, each time we don’t we deprive ourselves of the opportunity to practice and deprive the would be recipient of repayment. It’s best to keep those missed opportunities to a sustainable minimum.

        2. Do you feel that not cheating and/or disregarding others is different from Ignoring the debt?
        Probably not. Each of these could be considered active choices. Each could be passive choices as well if we haven’t worked to make these into habits that become second nature.

        3. Rewrite either of the verses

        Kindness received
        Is opportunity given
        For generosity

        Sat today

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        • Shokai
          Treeleaf Priest
          • Mar 2009
          • 6393

          #5
          All good,
          合掌,生開
          gassho, Shokai

          仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

          "Open to life in a benevolent way"

          https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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          • Veronica
            Member
            • Nov 2022
            • 124

            #6
            1. We do not always get to directly repay Kindnessses, does that matter??
            If we can't repay a Kindness directly to the one who created the Kindness, then we can try to pay a Kindness forward into the world and to other sentient beings, or even to nature. In this way, we are not in a state of "taking" more than "giving". This is more a state of mind, or a way of living, rather than a "keeping count".

            2. Do you feel that not cheating and/or disregarding others is different from Ignoring the debt?
            Those two phrases can have similar intent, but they do sound different to my ears. The "cheating/disregarding others" is more a reminder to directly repay the Kindness. But the "ignoring of debt" is more a reflection on my own sate of giving versus taking in a larger context. Either way, they both tell me "don't be stingy with kindness".

            3. Rewrite either of the verses.

            Repaying a kindness
            Helps me to appreciate
            All those who have been kind.

            Veronica
            stlah

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            • Shokai
              Treeleaf Priest
              • Mar 2009
              • 6393

              #7
              合掌,生開
              gassho, Shokai

              仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

              "Open to life in a benevolent way"

              https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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              • Anchi
                Member
                • Sep 2015
                • 556

                #8
                Life itself is the only teacher.
                一 Joko Beck


                STLah
                安知 Anchi

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                • Shokai
                  Treeleaf Priest
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 6393

                  #9
                  合掌,生開
                  gassho, Shokai

                  仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                  "Open to life in a benevolent way"

                  https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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                  • Tairin
                    Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 2816

                    #10
                    Thank you Shokai

                    1. We do not always get to directly repay Kindnessses, does that matter??

                    Similar to Veronica’s answer …. I feel that kind people are generally rewarded by creating more kindness in the world. They don’t seem to need a direct reward (such as recognition or reciprocity) for their kindness. They are trying to make the world a kinder place and see value in others contributing kindness. In contrast, those who are greedy, mean, or generally unkind tend to view with suspicion those that are kind as “working some angle” or some such.

                    2. Do you feel that not cheating and/or disregarding others is different from Ignoring the debt?

                    If I am right about #1 then by being kind ourselves there is no cheating, disregard, or ignoring the debt.

                    Kindness isn’t nor should it be transactional.


                    Tairin
                    Sat today and lah
                    泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

                    All of life is our temple

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                    • Shokai
                      Treeleaf Priest
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 6393

                      #11
                      Kindness isn’t nor should it be transactional.
                      合掌,生開
                      gassho, Shokai

                      仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                      "Open to life in a benevolent way"

                      https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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