The Seventeenth of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

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  • Shokai
    Treeleaf Priest
    • Mar 2009
    • 6394

    The Seventeenth of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

    17) The Seventeenth Gate: Abandonment

    Abandonment is a gate of Dharma illumination; for [with it] we turn away from the five desires*.(Nishijima/Cross)

    Letting go is a gate of realizing Dharma; it frees you from the five types of desire*.(Tanahashi)

    Gate Gatha:
    May we, together with all buddhas;
    Renounce any and all attachments,
    That we may turn away from the five desires.*

    * 1. Sensory desire, the particular type of wanting that seeks for happiness through the five senses of sight, sound, smell, taste and physical feeling.
    *2. Ill-will, all kinds of thought related to wanting to reject; feelings of hostility, resentment, hatred and bitterness.
    *3. Sloth-and-torpor, heaviness of body and dullness of mind which drag one down into disabling inertia and thick depression.
    *4. Restlessness-and-worry, the inability to calm the mind.
    *5. Doubt, lack of conviction or trust.

    Reflection Prompts:

    1. Do you feel Abandoment on Letting go are synonymous?

    2. Is turning away from the five desires the onlyresult of letting go?

    3. Is it fair to limit the types of desires to just five.

    Capping Verse:
    Drop all attachments
    And the self
    May just drop the self



    gasho, Shokai
    stlah
    合掌,生開
    gassho, Shokai

    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

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  • aprapti
    Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 889

    #2



    aprapti


    sat

    hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

    Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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    • Tai Do
      Member
      • Jan 2019
      • 1457

      #3
      Thank you, Shokai, for the Seventeenth Gate.


      1. Do you feel Abandoment and Letting go are synonymous?
      I feel they are synonymous, the former is just more formal then the other, I think (could be wrong because of my poor English skills).


      2. Is turning away from the five desires the only result of letting go?

      3. Is it fair to limit the types of desires to just five.
      I see the five desires list here as just a list of exemples of hindrances to our practice, not a complete list of all harmful and unskillful desires that can come from attachment.


      Gassho,
      Mateus
      Satlah
      怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
      (also known as Mateus )

      禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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      • Tokan
        Treeleaf Unsui
        • Oct 2016
        • 1283

        #4
        3. Is it fair to limit the types of desires to just five.

        I see five mountains that can be conquered,
        a lifetime's work, true,
        but the view from the top is the same for each of them.

        I chop the five into a thousand, now I heap misery onto misery.
        A thousand mountains.....where shall I start?

        If I can just look within, there is only one.

        Gassho, Tokan (satlah)
        平道 島看 Heidou Tokan (Balanced Way Island Nurse)
        I enjoy learning from everyone, I simply hope to be a friend along the way

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        • Tairin
          Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 2822

          #5
          Thank you Shokai.

          I don’t believe that Abandonment and Letting go are synonymous. Example, there have been relationships in my life that for one reason or another I have needed to let go of. It can be heart breaking but necessary. Abandonment to me removes some of that emotional attachment. I would have equated “discard” as being closer to abandonment.

          One, five, 10 thousand? As Token said, this is just taking a concept and slicing it up.


          Tairin
          Sat today and lah
          泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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          • Chikyou
            Member
            • May 2022
            • 632

            #6
            To me, "abandonment" brings up painful imagery of hurt and loss while "letting go" brings up healing imagery of liberation.

            As others have already said, 5 types of desire is really just a matter of division.

            Gassho,
            SatLah
            Kelly
            Chikyō 知鏡
            (KellyLM)

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            • Meian
              Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 1722

              #7
              Abandonment vs letting go really caught me.

              I have experienced Abandonment as pain, loss, being left behind or left out, and have perceived sudden death as Abandonment as well.

              However, more recently (past couple years), I have learned to view Abandonment more as the opportunity to "let go" of that which is not good for me - but not just me. Letting go of harmful behaviors, thoughts, and speech allows me to put energy and effort into Bodhisattva service, better relationships, learning to build up rather than tear down. It also has helped me to realize how limited my time and energy truly are.

              As others have said, this is work for a lifetime. But abandoning and letting go can be healing to wounds that must be cleaned out before they can close up.

              I have a long ways to go, but this Gate has clarified the process, thank you.

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              stlh

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