The Fifteenth of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

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  • Shokai
    Treeleaf Priest
    • Mar 2009
    • 6394

    The Fifteenth of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

    15) The Fifteenth Gate: Compassion

    Compassion is a gate of Dharma illumination; for [with it] we do not kill or harm living beings.(Nishijima/Cross)

    Grieving is a gate of realizing Dharma; it keeps you from harming sentient beings. (Tanahashi)

    Gate Gatha:
    May we, together with all beings
    Explore the dimensions of compassion
    That we may appreciate the impermanence of life.

    Reflection Prompts:

    1. Can you explain how these two translations are so far apart and yet, not?

    2. Is there a connection between Compassion and Grieving?

    3. Comment on How either of these emotions/traits effect not harming living beings.

    Capping Verse:
    Embrace compassion
    Our first step
    To embrace the world


    gassho,Shokai
    stlah
    合掌,生開
    gassho, Shokai

    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

    https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/
  • aprapti
    Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 889

    #2



    aprapti


    sat

    hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

    Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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    • Tai Do
      Member
      • Jan 2019
      • 1457

      #3
      Thank you, Shokai, for bringing the Fifteenth Gate.

      1. Can you explain how these two translations are so far apart and yet, not?
      I think compassion and grieving are very different things, but they both can bring is to stop harming sentient beings.


      2. Is there a connection between Compassion and Grieving?
      I think compassion directs us to end the suffering of sentient beings; while grieving is the pain we feel in our mind because of causing suffering to sentient beings.


      3. Comment on How either of these emotions/traits effect not harming living beings.
      Compassion directs us to end the suffering of others and, by doing so, prevents us from being the cause of this suffering; grieving, on the other hand, prevents us from the same because of the painful feeling it brings, so, when we remind ourselves of the pain of grieving, we stop our harmful ways of acting.


      Gassho,
      Mateus
      Satlah
      怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
      (also known as Mateus )

      禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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      • Tairin
        Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 2822

        #4
        Thank you Shokai

        I admit to be a bit stumped by this one. I wouldn’t have thought that compassion and grieving would both be translated from the same text. I like Mateus’s answers.


        Tairin
        Sat today and lah
        泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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        • Shokai
          Treeleaf Priest
          • Mar 2009
          • 6394

          #5
          grieving is the pain we feel in our mind
          Is the pain of grieving in the mind or the body (specifically the Heart)? The brain is in our head; where is the Mind? The main problem is that our experience through education and life gets us up into our heads. Isn't one of the effects of Zazen to integrate body and mind.

          gassho, Shokai
          stlah
          Last edited by Shokai; 01-05-2023, 03:20 PM.
          合掌,生開
          gassho, Shokai

          仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

          "Open to life in a benevolent way"

          https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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          • Tai Do
            Member
            • Jan 2019
            • 1457

            #6
            Originally posted by Shokai
            Is the pain of grieving in the mind or the body (specifically the Heart)? The brain is in our head; where is the Mind? The main problem is that our experience through education and life gets us up into our heads. Isn't one of the effects of Zazen to integrate body and mind.

            gassho, Shokai
            stlah

            Mateus
            Satlah
            怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
            (also known as Mateus )

            禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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