The 85th of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

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  • Shokai
    Treeleaf Priest
    • Mar 2009
    • 6392

    The 85th of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

    Gate Eighty-Five
    Read the following, place it in your heart and sleep on it. Then, tomorrow, live it until evening when you can leave a brief comment on what you may have received during the process.

    Right belief* is a gate of Dharma illumination; for [with it] we attain the supreme Dharma.

    A “Dharma Gate”is a teaching or practice that can lead to spiritual growth: some kind of positive outcome in terms of our practice. A way to approach the truth.

    Koan: "In the Zen tradition it is generally believed that a person can do what is right and avoid doing what is not right without necessarily holding any specific beliefs around that. Even so, it seems to me that the Zen Buddhists kind of hedge their bets when it comes to this belief.For example, Dogen wrote an essay called Deep Belief in Cause and Effect. And by “cause and effect” he meant karma in the sense of the idea that if you do good things, good things will happen to you, and if you do bad things, bad things will happen to you.
    Dogen, who was a very rational guy, did not find that idea of karma problematic. The essay I mentioned is one of two places in Shobogenzo in which Dogen writes about an old koan story from China. It’s the story of an ancient Zen master who is asked by a student if a Zen master is subject to the law of cause and effect. The Zen master says he isn’t subject to the law of cause and effect. Because of this, he gets reborn as a fox for his next 500 lifetimes. In China, foxes were seen as deceptive creatures.
    Centuries later the fox/Zen master turns himself into a human for long enough to ask another Zen master to help free him from being a fox. He tells this Zen master what happened to him and asks what he has to say about it. This other Zen master says, “Don’t be unclear about cause and effect.” This does the trick and the ancient Zen master is free from being reborn as a fox.Dogen wrote this essay to emphasize to his students that they should have what he calls “deep belief in cause and effect.
    He also wrote wrote another essay called Great Practice in which he also comments on the same story of the fox/Zen master. In this essay, he seems to be saying that an enlightened person is not subject to the law of cause and effect. What Dogen says in that essay actually a lot more subtle than I’m making it sound here. Even so, I think it’s fair to say that in the essay Great Practice, Dogen’s opinion about the nature of cause and effect seems quite different from the opinion he expresses in the essay Deep Belief in Cause and Effect. My guess is that Dogen recognized that, for a lot of people, having the proper beliefs was an important factor in their being able to act ethically.





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    We know we have feet Yet we walk Because we believe

    I have absolutely no idea How a refrigerator works.

    If we do Zazen,
    we will grow.
    Even if we don't believe


    Notes:
    * - Right belief: confidence/faith in the (truth) Dharma


    合掌 仁道 生開 - gassho, Jindo Shokai
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    gassho, Shokai

    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

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  • Nengyoku
    Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 536

    #2
    Thank you for being the warmth in my world.

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    • Myo Shin
      Member
      • Aug 2021
      • 49

      #3

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      • Nengyoku
        Member
        • Jun 2021
        • 536

        #4
        “Nevertheless, Subhuti, the noble son or daughter
        who grasps, memorizes, recites, and masters such a sutra as this
        and contemplates it thoroughly and explains it in detail to others
        will suffer their contempt, their utter contempt. And how could
        this be? Subhuti, the bad karma created by these beings in their
        past lives should result in an unfortunate rebirth. But now, by
        suffering such contempt, they put an end to the bad karma of
        their past lives and attain the enlightenment of buddhas."
        --- The Tathagata, in the Vajracchedikā Prajñāpāramitā Sūtra or the Diamond Sutra
        I enjoy this portion of the Diamond Sutra quite a bit. I like the implication, maybe even the outright admission, that we are enlightened not despite our bad karma but explicitly because of it.
        We could not stand where we do, in this body with access to this teaching without all of the dukkha which makes us up. This is why dukkha is the first of the four noble truths. It is the cornerstone of all the compassion which comes thereafter.

        Obviously, this does not mean we try to collect extra bad karma. Just that we are perfect as we are.


        All the bad I have done
        Is what waters the seeds
        Of the good I am doing.

        Gassho,
        Nengyoku
        Sat
        Last edited by Nengyoku; 03-15-2022, 03:06 AM. Reason: Clarification
        Thank you for being the warmth in my world.

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        • Anchi
          Member
          • Sep 2015
          • 556

          #5
          Life itself is the only teacher.
          一 Joko Beck


          STLah
          安知 Anchi

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          • aprapti
            Member
            • Jun 2017
            • 889

            #6

            hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

            Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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            • Juki
              Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 771

              #7


              "We know we have feet
              Yet we walk
              Because we believe"

              I like this, especially since walking has been described as "a controlled fall." And we need to fall into wholeheartedly into the Dharma.

              Gassho
              Juki
              sat today and lah
              "First you have to give up." Tyler Durden

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              • Tairin
                Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 2789

                #8
                I have absolutely no idea
                How a refrigerator works.
                Some mysteries are unsolvable


                Tairin
                Sat today and lah
                泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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