The Sixteenth of 108 Gates of Dharma Illumination

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  • Shokai
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Mar 2009
    • 6467

    The Sixteenth of 108 Gates of Dharma Illumination

    The Sixteenth Gate: Joy

    Joy is a gate of Dharma illumination; for [with it] we abandon all unpleasant things.(Nishijima/Cross)
    Joy is a gate of realizing Dharma; it keeps you from all joyless matters. (Tanahashi)

    Gate Gatha:
    May we, together with all beings
    Practice Joy ( i.e. delight and happiness )
    That we may be free of all unpleasant things.

    Reflection Prompts:
    1. Is this not just positive thinking?
    2. Do we purposely avoid unpleasant things or is being joyful a practice?
    3 How true do you feel the capping verse to be ?

    Capping Verse:
    A mind full of joy
    Still has room
    For everything else


    gassho, Shokai
    stlah
    合掌,生開
    gassho, Shokai

    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

    https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/
  • Dainei
    Member
    • Jan 2024
    • 109

    #2
    Joy is a visceral emotion and encompassing feeling. Positive thinking is still simply thinking. So, in my humble opinion, they are different. I think Soto Zen practitioners differ in that we accept and not avoid unpleasant things but also try to experience joy if it arises. Thus the capping verse i think hit the nail on the head, the joyful mind can also be the sad, mad, happy, irritated, satisfied etc. mind.

    Gassho,
    Bill
    Sat

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    • Shokai
      Dharma Transmitted Priest
      • Mar 2009
      • 6467

      #3
      Are not all emotions visceral?

      Gassho, Shokai
      合掌,生開
      gassho, Shokai

      仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

      "Open to life in a benevolent way"

      https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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      • Choujou
        Member
        • Apr 2024
        • 309

        #4
        Reflection Prompts:
        1. Is this not just positive thinking?
        2. Do we purposely avoid unpleasant things or is being joyful a practice?
        3 How true do you feel the capping verse to be ?

        1. Joy to me is a happiness beyond thought, in essence, a cause of “positive thinking”!

        2. oh I know I do! I think most people avoid unpleasantness. It definitely is a practice to be and maintain joyfulness, especially in a society that seems bent on negativity and glorifying all that negativity has to offer.

        3. It’s not all fun and games… one must accept the bad with the good. It’s all Buddha. But one can still hold joy in the heart even during the bad times in life.

        Gassho,
        Jay

        sat/lah today

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        • Tairin
          Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 2917

          #5
          1. What’s wrong with positive thinking?

          2. No, we do not purposely avoid unpleasant things. We accept everything. Pleasant or unpleasant is just the state of mind.

          3. I think the capping versus appropriate


          Tairin
          sat today and lah
          泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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          • Hosai
            Member
            • Jun 2024
            • 631

            #6
            Happy, happy, happy, joy, joy, joy

            PHOTO REMOVED BY JUNDO

            How soon till we're rounding up minorities.... oh wait...

            _/\_
            sat/ah
            ​​​​​matt
            Last edited by Jundo; 01-08-2025, 12:10 AM.
            防災 Hōsai - Dharma Gatherer

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40955

              #7
              Originally posted by Matt Johnson
              Happy, happy, happy, joy, joy, joy
              PHOTO DELETED

              How soon till we're rounding up minorities.... oh wait...
              Hi Matt,

              I removed your photo, and please consider this a caution. As I have mentioned to you a few times before, we avoid overtly political material here in our Sangha. However, it is fine to discuss social policy issues, such as hunger, poverty, violence and war, from a perspective of our Precepts.

              I hope you will respect that. Thank you.

              Gassho, Jundo
              stlah
              Last edited by Jundo; 01-08-2025, 12:12 AM.
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Hosai
                Member
                • Jun 2024
                • 631

                #8
                Originally posted by Jundo

                Hi Matt,

                I removed your photo, and please consider this a caution. As I have mentioned to you a few times before, we avoid overtly political material here in our Sangha. However, it is fine to discuss social policy issues, such as hunger, poverty, violence and war, from a perspective of our Precepts.

                I hope you will respect that. Thank you.
                I think you are confused.

                From the perspective of a citizen or soldier, defending (in this case verbally) your homeland is an act of necessity, love, and protection.

                From a global perspective, others may interpret it as part of the geopolitical landscape and assign political motives, even if they’re irrelevant to those on the ground.

                So from my perspective I am doing what is right. ESPECIALLY if there are members of the international community present!

                _/\_
                sat/ah
                matt

                防災 Hōsai - Dharma Gatherer

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