The 24th of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

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  • Shokai
    Treeleaf Priest
    • Mar 2009
    • 6394

    The 24th of 108 Gates Of Dharma Illumination

    Gate Twenty Four
    Read the following, place it in your heart and sleep on it. Then, tomorrow, live it until evening when you can leave a brief comment on what you may have received during the process.

    Veracity is a gate of Dharma illumination; for [with it] we do not deceive gods and human beings.

    A “Dharma Gate”, is a teaching or practice we can study to gain insights into the deepening our practice. It's a way to integrate our understanding of approaching reality.

    Veracity :
    Habitual observance of truth in speech or statement; truthfulness.

    Sawaki roshi said. "Unless you see the 'human' from Buddha's point of view, you'll never understand the truth." *

    Truth Telling**: The principle of veracity, or truth telling, requires that healthcare providers be honest in their interactions with patients. “Traditional ethics holds that it is simply wrong morally to lie to people, even if it is expedient to do so, even if a better outcome will come from a lie." According to this view, lying to people is morally wrong in that it shows lack of respect for them” Being honest with patients helps to build and maintain trusting relationships that are essential to the delivery of quality patient care. However, as with the other principles, telling the truth to a patient is not always viewed as the right thing to do. Although mainstream American culture holds honesty in high regard, other cultures do not. In fact, telling sick and dying people about their conditions, particularly in the case of terminal illness, can be seen as cruel and even harmful by certain ethnic and racial groups, The principle of truth telling is influenced, interpreted, and valued differently because of the backgrounds, education, and socioeconomic status of providers and patients.

    *The Zen Teaching of Homeless Kodo, Uchiyama & Okumura; 66pg189
    ** Principles of Ethics; Amy M. Haddad, PhD, RN, pg7 ; Link here

    Question: How does the above discourse on 'Truth Telling' conflict with the Buddhist concept of upāya, [expedient means} ?"

    Most note worthy replies :
    Right Speech and the corresponding precept of refraining from telling untruths are challenging enough for most of us, but I often find the more subtle aspects of being truthful to be even more difficult to navigate.

    Most Detrimental
    Are the lies
    I tell to myself

    合掌 js/stlah
    合掌,生開
    gassho, Shokai

    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

    https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/
  • Shokai
    Treeleaf Priest
    • Mar 2009
    • 6394

    #2
    合掌,生開
    gassho, Shokai

    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

    https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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    • Tai Do
      Member
      • Jan 2019
      • 1457

      #3
      I think veracity requires not only telling the truth, but questioning ourselves: “Is this really true? Is it skillful to say it? Is it appropriate to say it here and now?”
      Gassho,
      Tai Do
      Satlah
      怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
      (also known as Mateus )

      禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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      • Seikan
        Member
        • Apr 2020
        • 712

        #4
        if one is honest
        with oneself
        truth will spread to all


        Gassho,
        Seikan

        -stlah-
        聖簡 Seikan (Sacred Simplicity)

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        • Kaitan
          Member
          • Mar 2023
          • 545

          #5
          Who are you lying to?

          Gasshō

          stlah, Kaitan
          Kaitan - 界探 - Realm searcher
          Formerly known as "Bernal"

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          • Ramine
            Member
            • Jul 2023
            • 156

            #6
            Originally posted by Tai Do
            I think veracity requires not only telling the truth, but questioning ourselves: “Is this really true? Is it skillful to say it? Is it appropriate to say it here and now?”
            Gassho,
            Tai Do
            Satlah
            Gassho,
            Ramine

            SatLah

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            • Tairin
              Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 2824

              #7


              Tairin
              Sat today and lah
              泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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