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  • Myogan
    Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 375

    Rakusu vocabulary

    Originally posted by TomSchulte
    Now what is the translation/description in English of Cho, Tan, Maneki, Sao, En, and Joro?
    This is a call out to anyone who knows.

    I believe the En is 円 which originally meant circle before it came to represent the Japanese unit of currency. Hard to say with out the Kanji.

    Anybody have other ideas?

    Gassho
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  • Shokai
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Mar 2009
    • 6422

    #2
    myogan;
    like you said, it all depends on the Kanji.
    Using jisho.org there are many variants
    especially where a Joro can be an Edo period Prostitute or a species of spiderjoro.jpg

    to answer Tom's question, it doesn't matter, they are just words used to designate various pieces of the puzzle
    for instance, cho can mean a unit of measurement but, not in this case ; also Maneki can be an introduction of preface as well as a cat: go figure

    gassho, Shokai

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    • Mp

      #3
      Hey folks,

      I also think that Thomas was asking more in reference to the Rakusu and it parts, as oppose to its literal meaning, but that is just my understanding. =)

      Gassho
      Shingen

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 40760

        #4
        Originally posted by Shokai
        especially where a Joro can be an Edo period Prostitute or a species of spider
        No, those are homonyms, but very different words, very different Kanji. Like Shokai can mean "Life Open" as in your name, or this breed of dog in Korea ... both you and the pup very cute ...



        如法衣 = Nyohou-e

        Consists of 3 Kanji ...

        Nyo 如 Like, in keeping with, resembling https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%A6%82

        Hou 法 Law, Dharma, the Buddha's Teachings https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%B3%95#Japanese

        E 衣 Robe, clothing https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%A1%A3#Japanese

        I notice that, often, elements such as "sao" and "maneki" are written in kana, as the Kanji are not so common now.



        For example, Sao may originally have been this, 棹, which is the neck of a violin for example, or this 竿, a pole ... but many now I am finding online just write in kana, as in the above diagram.

        You can explore more around this Japanese Fukudenkai (福田会 Lucky Field Meeting) sewing group page and their diagrams ...





        Interestingly, "Jorou" seems to literally mean 助牢 ... helping (助) secure, imprison (牢). The thing that helps secure.

        Maneki is probably related to "summon" (招く)


        Gassho, J

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        Last edited by Jundo; 09-15-2017, 04:31 AM.
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        • Chishou
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          • Aug 2017
          • 204

          #5
          Would Kakunen san know?


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          Ask not what the Sangha can do for you, but what you can do for your Sangha.

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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 40760

            #6
            Chou ... a long piece ... certainly comes from the Kanji for "long" ... "chou, nagai" ...長



            Tan ... short piece ... from "short" ... "tan, mijikai" ... 短



            En , yes, can mean a circle (or coin), but it can also be a surrounding frame ... 円



            Was that everything?


            Gassho, J

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            • Myogan
              Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 375

              #7
              Originally posted by Shingen
              Hey folks,

              I also think that Thomas was asking more in reference to the Rakusu and it parts, as oppose to its literal meaning, but that is just my understanding. =)
              Probably. I'm just taking advantage of the question To provide several benefits. Studying is always better if you can immerse yourself in it, in this case not only with language but the study of the rakusu. It also can bring the community together in a different way. After all, how many Zendos can you learn how to say prostitute in a foreign-language ?

              Gassho
              Sat
              Marc Connery
              明岩
              Myo̅ Gan - Bright Cliff

              I put the Monkey in Monkeymind

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              • Mp

                #8
                Originally posted by Myogan
                Probably. I'm just taking advantage of the question To provide several benefits. Studying is always better if you can immerse yourself in it, in this case not only with language but the study of the rakusu. It also can bring the community together in a different way. After all, how many Zendos can you learn how to say prostitute in a foreign-language ?

                Gassho
                Sat
                Sounds good Myogan! [emoji106]

                Gassho
                Shingen

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