Oryoki Practice Circle Meeting One

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  • Shugen
    Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 4535

    Oryoki Practice Circle Meeting One

    Hello all,

    Welcome to the Oryoki Practice Circle.

    We will meet Sundays 9:30am New York City Time (6:30am Los Angeles California - 2:30pm London England )

    LINK TO BE POSTED BELOW:





    In our first meeting we will go over the different components of the Oryoki set and discuss how we shall procede. Please bring your complete or partial Oryoki sets.

    Here is a link that provides some measurements to make your own:



    Here are the approximate measurements for the "Hattan" and "Mizuita":

    Hattan measurements:
    24cm x 33cm; 9.5in x 13in.

    Waterboard:
    21cm x 6.75cm; 8.25in x 2.75in.

    Remember to mute your microphone.

    I look forward to practicing together!

    Gassho,

    Shugen

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    Last edited by Shugen; 03-06-2016, 03:57 PM.
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    #2
    Thank you Shugen ... will see you all tomorrow morning. =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

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    • Jika
      Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 1337

      #3
      I'll be there with my pillowcase (sorry, busy on another project! No offence, Shugen.) and a confused face
      ;D

      Gassho
      Jika
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      • Shugen
        Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 4535

        #4
        Originally posted by Jika
        I'll be there with my pillowcase (sorry, busy on another project! No offence, Shugen.) and a confused face
        ;D

        Gassho
        Jika
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        Perfect!

        Gassho,

        Shugen

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        • Sekishi
          Dharma Transmitted Priest
          • Apr 2013
          • 5676

          #5
          See you tomorrow.

          Gassho,
          Sekishi
          Sekishi | 石志 | He/him | Better with a grain of salt, but best ignored entirely.

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          • Shugen
            Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 4535

            #6
            Hi Jika,

            Does konstruktionspaper or bastelpapier help? It is a stiff, colored paper that is used in children's schools for art projects.

            Gassho,

            Shugen

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            • Washin
              Senior Priest-in-Training
              • Dec 2014
              • 3803

              #7
              konstruktionspaper or bastelpapier
              I believe one could find it at a regular stationery shop or similar.

              Thank you all. A good start

              Gassho
              Washin
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              and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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              • Jika
                Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 1337

                #8
                Does konstruktionspaper or bastelpapier help?
                I'm not sure. There is "Tonpapier" for a coloured paper heavier in weight, and "Tonkarton" (very heavy, will not fold nicely).

                Both have a rough surface, that was the reason for my question.

                I think I've never seen a craft paper with as well ordinary/heavy weight as glossy/water-repelling surface.

                And apart from the internet luxuries you mentioned, Shugen, I can't find nesting bowls.

                Have been trying stores big and small, cheap and expensive.

                Sometimes colourful plastic, sometimes ceramic, but never nesting.
                (The German market seems to have no need for nesting bowls smaller than salad bowls to feed a family...)

                I'll start with tupper bowls, sorry; maybe I can get at least the right paper.

                Gassho
                Jika
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                • Shugen
                  Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 4535

                  #9
                  Hi Jika,

                  It sounds like the "tonapapier", in black if you can find it, will work. You can't tell from the video but my hattan has a rough surface.

                  Tupper bowls are good if you can't find any thing else. You do not need to apologize. We work with what we have. The important thing is the sincerity we bring to our practice. And, if I may say so, you have quite a lot!

                  I am happy to be practicing together.

                  Deep Bows,

                  Shugen

                  #sattoday


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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 40617

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shugen
                    Hi Jika,

                    It sounds like the "tonapapier", in black if you can find it, will work. You can't tell from the video but my hattan has a rough surface.

                    Tupper bowls are good if you can't find any thing else. You do not need to apologize. We work with what we have. The important thing is the sincerity we bring to our practice. And, if I may say so, you have quite a lot!

                    I am happy to be practicing together.

                    Deep Bows,

                    Shugen

                    #sattoday


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                    Let me just jump in here a bit. Maybe I would not recommend tupper plastic bowls except as a completely last resort. Any bowls that more or less fit inside each other, even if not a perfect fit, are fine. A bit bigger bowl, a medium bowl, a little smaller bowl etc. You may already have such bowls in your kitchen now if you try seeing what fits into each other.

                    Gassho, Jundo

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                    • Jika
                      Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 1337

                      #11
                      Thank you all.

                      Many thanks for your encouragement, Shugen.

                      Two years Rohatsu (with going through my cupboard, and my mother's, and friends'...) have yielded interesting results - like French cider bowls, I had always thought those where coffee mugs! - but no nesting result...

                      The quest goes on.

                      Gassho
                      Jika
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                      • Kotei
                        Dharma Transmitted Priest
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 4226

                        #12
                        Thank you Shugen,

                        I will follow the videos, practicing with you all together.
                        Most of the local Sunday late noons, I'll be with local friends and family, so not joining live on a regular basis.

                        I've made my Oryoki cloths last year for our Rohatsu and they have dark olive-green color.
                        Do you think that's ok, too? Or maybe it's better, having all treeleafer sets in the same, blue-grey color?

                        The first video was very clear to understand, but it was difficult to see, what you've been doing on the board,
                        because the little boxes with the other participants interfered with it.
                        Not really important for this video, because you lifted all the things you've been talking about above them,
                        but maybe interesting for further sessions.

                        @Jika,
                        I'll give black "Tonpapier" with 130g/m2, that I've found in a "Schreibwarengeschäft" a chance.

                        Thanks again,
                        gassho,
                        Kotei sattoday.
                        義道 冴庭 / Gidō Kotei.

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                        • Jika
                          Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 1337

                          #13
                          I'll give black "Tonpapier" with 130g/m2, that I've found in a "Schreibwarengeschäft" a chance.


                          Kotei, any idea for the bowls???????
                          PM me if you want.
                          Thank you,
                          Gassho
                          Jika
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                          • Shugen
                            Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 4535

                            #14
                            Hi Kotei,

                            Dark olive green cloths are fine for our purposes.

                            And, I'll work on the camera angle! [emoji6]

                            Gassho,

                            Shugen

                            #sattoday


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                            • Kotei
                              Dharma Transmitted Priest
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 4226

                              #15
                              Hi,

                              Jika, unfortunately, I have no idea regarding the bowls,
                              I've made mine at a wood-turning workshop in our local makerspace and I'm afraid, I couldn't repeat it without the guidance of the guy who led the workshop.

                              Thank you, Shugen, so it's just the Hattan and Waterboard, I'll have to make.

                              I am happy, practicing with you all.
                              Gassho,
                              Kotei sattoday.
                              義道 冴庭 / Gidō Kotei.

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