Oryoki Circle One: An Introduction to Oryoki

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  • Mp

    #31
    Hello everyone,

    Here is the link to the Oryoki set that I have purchased. Have a look and maybe it will work in your budget. I too will take some photos once it arrives. =)



    Gassho
    Shingen

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    • Myozan Kodo
      Friend of Treeleaf
      • May 2010
      • 1901

      #32
      Thanks Shingen.
      Looks good. More kosher than my brown wooden utensils, and my setsu isn't built for an absorbent cloth to be fixed on. Nice.

      Hopefully they'll nest nicely when you get them.

      Gassho
      Myozan

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      • Mp

        #33
        Your welcome Myozan,

        I will take some photos when they arrive and show how the nest within each other and what the whole package looks like. =)

        Gassho
        Shingen


        Originally posted by Myozan Kodo
        Thanks Shingen.
        Looks good. More kosher than my brown wooden utensils, and my setsu isn't built for an absorbent cloth to be fixed on. Nice.

        Hopefully they'll nest nicely when you get them.

        Gassho
        Myozan
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        Last edited by Guest; 02-06-2014, 04:55 AM. Reason: Update

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        • Nindo

          #34
          Just catching up. Sunday noon didn't work the last 2 weeks.
          Thanks and gassho!

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          • Mp

            #35
            Update: Well, it looks like the bowls that I received are not the right ones. They did tell me they were Soto/General style, but as you can see with the bottom, they are not round. They do however nest very well inside each other. What do you think?

            Gassho
            Shingen

            Photo on 2014-02-03 at 19.23.jpgPhoto on 2014-02-03 at 19.23 #2.jpgPhoto on 2014-02-03 at 19.26.jpgPhoto on 2014-02-03 at 19.27.jpg

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40035

              #36
              Just to note Michael that, while the big Buddha Bowl does appear (on the photo anyway) to be a bit oddly shaped from most Soto bowls I have seen, I think that only a concern if you are planning to train at Eiheiji sometime soon.:-) Since you are not, they are more than adequate.

              Gassho, J
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Myozan Kodo
                Friend of Treeleaf
                • May 2010
                • 1901

                #37
                Lookin' good, Shingen. Like Jundo said above, these bowls will serve you well and will never cause you a problem in terms of not being acceptable. They are very liek th ebowls Taigu gave me at ordination, in fact. Beautiful.
                Gassho
                Myozan

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                • Mp

                  #38
                  Jundo and Myozan, wonderful ... thank you for the feedback! I will create some cloths for them and have them ready for next class. =)

                  Gassho
                  Shingen

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                  • Sekishi
                    Treeleaf Priest
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 5671

                    #39
                    Hi all,

                    I made up a "preparing the oryoki set" checklist similar to the one Myozan made for Oryoki Circle Two ("opening the bowls"). I'm sure it will need additional details once we get to formal "closing the bowls", but this should result in a set that is ready to open in circle two.

                    I think I have it all right, but just in case you might not want to chisel it into stone until Myozan gives it his ok!

                    1. Put utensils into the bag:
                    - Setsu on left (wet end / cloth out)
                    - Spoon in middle (handle out)
                    - Chopsticks on right (large end out)
                    2. Lay out wrapping cloth (baseball diamond configuration).
                    3. Nest all bowls in the center.
                    4. Fold Hattan into "Z" with opening corners on the top left and bottom right and place flat onto bowls.
                    5. Fold first flap: bring bottom / "home" of wrapping cloth over bowls (with optional flip / fold of the corner).
                    6. Fold second flap: bring top / "2nd base" of wrapping cloth over (with optional flip / fold of corner).
                    7. Fold napkin in half (short axis), then into a "Z" with right side closest to body.
                    8. Flip napkin over (right hand over left), then onto the wrapping cloth. Opening corners should be on the top left and bottom right.
                    9. Place waterboard / Mizuita on top of napkin.
                    10. Place utensil bag on top with opening towards body
                    11. Place drying cloth on top (folded in half, unfold towards body)
                    12. Place left hand (palm up) on top, pull left side over, under thumb and pinky, hold with pinky.
                    13. Pull right side over to between pointer and middle finger. Hold.
                    14. Grab the tip from step 11 with the right hand and hold, while pulling the tip from step 12 under and tie.
                    15. Tie second time so that there is nothing on the left, and a "rabbit ear" on the right.

                    Deep bows,
                    Sekishi
                    Last edited by Sekishi; 02-09-2014, 05:17 PM. Reason: Corrected as per Myozan's feedback below.
                    Sekishi | 石志 | He/him | Better with a grain of salt, but best ignored entirely.

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                    • Myozan Kodo
                      Friend of Treeleaf
                      • May 2010
                      • 1901

                      #40
                      Hi Sekishi,
                      This is great. This is the meaning of a practise circle! Well done

                      Just two things in your great work:

                      1. Spoon handle is protruding, not the bowl. Inside the bag, when held and ready to take out the spoon, the spoon bowl is open away from the body, the bowl down in the bottom of the bag and facing away from the body ... and, as you say, in the middle of the bag.

                      5 & 6: The confusion here is all my fault. First 'home base' is folded over when packing up, then 'third base'. This is because in opening, we should be opening 'third base' first. Sorry for any confusion I caused earlier.

                      Otherwise this is a very very useful list, Sekishi. Good job.
                      Gassho
                      Myozan

                      PS: Maybe I'll go through it all at the start tonight, to clear up any confusion.

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                      • Sekishi
                        Treeleaf Priest
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 5671

                        #41
                        Thank you Myozan. I've made the corrections directly to my original post (to hopefully avoid confusion with two lists showing up in the thread).

                        Gassho,
                        Sekishi
                        Sekishi | 石志 | He/him | Better with a grain of salt, but best ignored entirely.

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                        • Sekishi
                          Treeleaf Priest
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 5671

                          #42
                          I made a printable version of the above list, combined with Myozan's "opening the bowls" list. This should make it easy to print it out and keep it in your practice space.

                          The PDF can be downloaded from:


                          If you want an editable version (to add your own notes or whatever), I also posted my original Markdown version (which is just a text file that follows a certain formatting conventions). You can open it in any text editor:


                          Gassho,
                          Sekishi
                          Sekishi | 石志 | He/him | Better with a grain of salt, but best ignored entirely.

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                          • Mp

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Sekishi
                            I made a printable version of the above list, combined with Myozan's "opening the bowls" list. This should make it easy to print it out and keep it in your practice space.

                            The PDF can be downloaded from:


                            If you want an editable version (to add your own notes or whatever), I also posted my original Markdown version (which is just a text file that follows a certain formatting conventions). You can open it in any text editor:


                            Gassho,
                            Sekishi
                            This is great Sekishi ... thank you for putting this together. =)

                            Gassho
                            Shingen

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                            • Myozan Kodo
                              Friend of Treeleaf
                              • May 2010
                              • 1901

                              #44
                              Sekishi,
                              Wonderful stuff. Very helpful. Thank you for your practice.
                              Deep bows,
                              Myozan

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