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  • Shoka
    Member
    • May 2014
    • 2370

    What to put in the Bowls?

    I have a silly question, but it trips me up when I try to practice oryoki. What do you put in your bowls? Really, what food do you use?

    I think the reason I find this hard is because I never feel like I get a well-rounded meal. So I end up just putting whatever seems easy to eat; then eating something else after.

    Are there any resources to help guide how to prepare an oryoki meal? Or recipes so that you get the three separate items, but end up with a complete meal?

    Gassho,

    Shoka
    sattoday
  • Kokuu
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Nov 2012
    • 6930

    #2
    Hi Shoka

    When we do the two day rohatsu retreat I usually make some kind of rice salad which includes vegetables and protein such as nuts, beans or smoked tofu. In another bowl I often put rye or oat crackers.

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday-

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 40999

      #3
      I will speak practically from experience in Japan, where in the monasteries here tend to serve Shojin Ryori (Buddhist Vegetarian Cooking). The main Buddha bowl is white or brown rice or a mix of rice and barley. There is Miso Soup in the middle dish, and a vegetable dish, maybe with a light sauce, and some pickles on the side.



      You do not need to stick to such a menu, but please remember that you need to clean the bowls with some speed and ease during the "washing" portion of packing the bowl. That means that you should be able to clean the bowls pretty well, and get most of the food off, quickly with just a little water and the Setsu (Cleaning Stick). Of course, you are expected to unpack and properly rewash your bowls after the meal in a sink if they need. However, the main cleaning during the ceremony means that you should avoid foods that make too much of a mess.

      Gassho, J

      SatToday
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • Mp

        #4
        Hello Shoka,

        I am vegan, so lots of options for oryoki. Usually I have a rice/bean mixture in the large (Buddha) bowl, usually raw or cooked veggies in the middle bowl, and miso in the small bowl.

        I also have green tea or just plain hot water for drinking and cleaning. =)

        Gassho
        Shingen

        s@today

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        • Shugen
          Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 4532

          #5
          Hi Shoka,

          I'm usually having breakfast so it's pretty easy - scrambled eggs, fruit and yogurt, oatmeal (on the runny side so it's easier to clean up) tea - that sort of thing.

          Gassho,

          Shugen

          Sattoday


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          明道 修眼

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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 40999

            #6
            Originally posted by Jundo
            I will speak practically from experience in Japan, where in the monasteries here tend to serve Shojin Ryori (Buddhist Vegetarian Cooking). The main Buddha bowl is white or brown rice or a mix of rice and barley. There is Miso Soup in the middle dish, and a vegetable dish, maybe with a light sauce, and some pickles on the side.



            You do not need to stick to such a menu, but please remember that you need to clean the bowls with some speed and ease during the "washing" portion of packing the bowl. That means that you should be able to clean the bowls pretty well, and get most of the food off, quickly with just a little water and the Setsu (Cleaning Stick). Of course, you are expected to unpack and properly rewash your bowls after the meal in a sink if they need. However, the main cleaning during the ceremony means that you should avoid foods that make too much of a mess.

            Gassho, J

            SatToday
            Actually, I just thought I should mention that breakfast is Congi, rice porridge, in the big Buddha Bowl in Japan. That is actually pretty sticky and hard to get off the bowl. So, never mind what I said.



            Gassho, J

            SatToday
            ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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            • Mp

              #7
              Originally posted by Jundo
              Actually, I just thought I should mention that breakfast is Congi, rice porridge, in the big Buddha Bowl in Japan. That is actually pretty sticky and hard to get off the bowl. So, never mind what I said.



              Gassho, J

              SatToday
              LOL ... oh you are bringing back memories. I too tried to make rice gruel once ... it was like glue! Now I just stick to plain old rice.

              Gassho
              Shingen

              s@today

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              • Entai
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 451

                #8
                I usually have rice with veggies in the Buddha bowl, another vegetable or soup in the middle bowl and fruit in the small bowl.

                Gassho,
                Entai
                #SatToday

                泰 Entai (Bill)
                "this is not a dress rehearsal"

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                • Kyonin
                  Dharma Transmitted Priest
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 6748

                  #9
                  Hi Shoka,

                  For me it's almost always some diced fruit like apple or pineapple. I keep it very simple.

                  Gassho,

                  Kyonin
                  Sat/LAH
                  Hondō Kyōnin
                  奔道 協忍

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                  • Sekishi
                    Dharma Transmitted Priest
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 5673

                    #10
                    Hi Shoka,

                    During Rohatsu I try to just use foods that are easy to prepare so there is not a lot of prep-time before oryoki (rice in the rice-maker, fruit, nuts, yogurt, scrambled eggs, small cubes of toasted bread, etc.).

                    I'll admit though, when I eat Oryoki periodically to "stay in practice", I tend to go with the least-sticky, easiest cleanup things I can find. Dry Cheerios, nuts, etc.

                    Gassho,
                    Sekishi #sat
                    Sekishi | 石志 | He/him | Better with a grain of salt, but best ignored entirely.

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                    • Jakuden
                      Member
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 6141

                      #11
                      I have more fun than I should with this, I'm sure. For breakfast, oatmeal in one bowl, then fruit salad the next with a dollop of yogurt, then juice in the third bowl. For lunch or dinner, a rice dish with beans/tofu or fish chunks, vegetable salad or miso soup, and a square of some kind of zucchini, banana, or pumpkin bread with a little spread. I have experimented with spiced waters and teas, usually with a cinnamon/clove essence, to wash the bowls and it is delicious to drink at the end, truly ambrosia!
                      Gassho,
                      Jakuden
                      SatToday

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                      • Washin
                        Senior Priest-in-Training
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 3828

                        #12
                        Hi Shoka,

                        Usually, in the Buddha bowl I have rice with mixed vegetables (like Mexico Mix etc.). In the middle bowl
                        there is some soup or sometimes yoghurt with fresh/dried fruits and/or nuts. The small one is for the tea
                        or plain hot water. I always try to cook the simplier, less messy and sticky meal.

                        Gassho
                        Washin
                        ST
                        Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                        Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                        ----
                        I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                        and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                        • Shoka
                          Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 2370

                          #13
                          Thanks for the suggestions. I think a rice salad is what I need to start making for the big bowl. Instead of just rice.

                          Gassho,

                          Shops
                          Sattoday

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                          • Myogan
                            Member
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 378

                            #14
                            At the Hobart Oryoki meal we had the following

                            Buddha Bowl
                            Grits
                            -cooked in a rice cooker 1 part grits to 4-5 parts water, start out with 1/2 tsp salt, cook for 20 minutes or until cooker goes to "warm" Adjust the seasoning with kosher salt, freshly ground black pepper and butter. Sprinkle finely grated cheddar or parmesan after serving.
                            I made ours rather loose, but with less water or longer cooking time may start to get thicker

                            Middle bowl
                            Pinhead (steel cut) oats
                            - unfortunately I forgot to get fresh oats and used 3 minute oats which worked, with dried blueberries as a topping, but here is my favorite recipe for overnight oats.
                            1 cup steel cut oats
                            1 cup dried cranberries
                            1 cup dried figs
                            4 cups water
                            1/2 cup half-and-half
                            heat up oats in a nonstick pan, swirling over the flame, when you start to smell a nutty scent, immediately put them in the crock pot.
                            combine with the rest of the ingredients and set to low heat. Cover and let cook for 8 to 9 hours.
                            your oatmeal will be finished by morning.

                            small bowl
                            Vegetarian breakfast patties cut in half or quarters for easy handling by chopsticks


                            Gassho
                            Sat
                            Marc Connery
                            明岩
                            Myo̅ Gan - Bright Cliff

                            I put the Monkey in Monkeymind

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                            • Jundo
                              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 40999

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Myogan
                              At the Hobart Oryoki meal we had the following

                              Buddha Bowl
                              Grits
                              -cooked in a rice cooker 1 part grits to 4-5 parts water, start out with 1/2 tsp salt, cook for 20 minutes or until cooker goes to "warm" Adjust the seasoning with kosher salt, freshly ground black pepper and butter. Sprinkle finely grated cheddar or parmesan after serving.
                              I made ours rather loose, but with less water or longer cooking time may start to get thicker

                              Middle bowl
                              Pinhead (steel cut) oats
                              - unfortunately I forgot to get fresh oats and used 3 minute oats which worked, with dried blueberries as a topping, but here is my favorite recipe for overnight oats.
                              1 cup steel cut oats
                              1 cup dried cranberries
                              1 cup dried figs
                              4 cups water
                              1/2 cup half-and-half
                              heat up oats in a nonstick pan, swirling over the flame, when you start to smell a nutty scent, immediately put them in the crock pot.
                              combine with the rest of the ingredients and set to low heat. Cover and let cook for 8 to 9 hours.
                              your oatmeal will be finished by morning.

                              small bowl
                              Vegetarian breakfast patties cut in half or quarters for easy handling by chopsticks


                              Gassho
                              Sat
                              Myogan, I want to thank you again for your care and hospitality, and work at preparations. It really was a fine couple of days thanks to you.

                              Gassho, Jundo

                              SatTodayLAH
                              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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