[EcoDharma] ACTIVE HOPE Chapter Ten

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  • Kokuu
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Nov 2012
    • 6874

    [EcoDharma] ACTIVE HOPE Chapter Ten

    In this chapter, Joanna and Chris make the important point that very little worth accomplishing is achieved without overcoming obstacles. In the case of activism this can be in terms of setbacks, such as events going in the wrong direction to the goal, and threshold guardians in the form of opposition from Business as Usual and their allies. Our own doubts can also stand in our way.

    They point out that change is often discontinuous, with a lot of effort being expended for apparently minimal gains, until suddenly the water crashes through the dam. This is echoed in Rebecca Solnit’s book Hope in the Dark, which I will doubtless continue to reference!

    Nelson Mandela’s quote is shared: “It always seems impossible until it is done.”

    Chris talks about his own story as a junior doctor in the UK fighting for change in a system which was forcing doctors to work in conditions of extreme sleep deprivation endangering the health of both doctors and patients. He faced pressure from his own bosses that pursuing his campaign would be detrimental for his career and a lack of support from the doctors’ own union, who considered it to have zero chance of success.

    Chris says, “when a change wants to happen, it looks for people to act through.” Who are those people other than us? In Zen terms, we are the thousands of hands and eyes of Kannon bodhisattva.

    When we move towards change, we almost always find previously hidden sources of support, just as Chris had lawyers offering their services for free in order to bring about necessary change.


    Questions:

    Do you have your own story of doing something despite strong opposition or internal doubts?

    What helped you to overcome those threshold guardians?

    What are the threshold guardians stopping you from taking more action now?



    Feel free to also do the exercise on p196 in Identifying Your Goals and Resources.

    I have completely lost track on who is doing which chapter, but it would be good to have two weeks to work with this one before continuing on.


    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday-
    -
  • paulashby

    #2
    This chapter read like a football coach at halftime...
    Keep going, stick with your goal, accept the score as it is but work
    for the win, if the Berlin Wall can crumble against all odds so can their
    opposition. We all need a positive energy to sustain our efforts.
    As for facing opposition at the start of the 21st century, I started doing GLBTQ
    union services for free as a witness for marriage equality and a help
    to those in committed relationships.It was 13 years before the Supreme
    Court legalized marriage equality. Those were 13 long years for GLBTQ
    persons in red states such as where I served in Oklahoma.
    I have been an advocate for sane gun control and banning military weapons
    for civilians for 3 decades and I do not expect real change to happen
    even with weekly mass killings in the U.S. The Congressional representative
    in my area wanted to pass a law to honor the AR-15 assault rifle as the "official
    gun of Americans". My wife and I will be working to defeat Rep.Bobert.
    Why bother? Because real change can take a long term commitment.

    Gassho, peace,Paul sat lah

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    • Doshin
      Member
      • May 2015
      • 2640

      #3
      Regarding the questions..

      I started my career in wildlife conservation in the 1970s. During that decade in the US environmental legislation such as the Endangered Species Act, National Environmental Protection Act and others were new and beginning to affect how projects were evaluated…wildlife considerations were becoming more apparent. However these considerations were a tough sell and often resented. The working environment was sometimes hostile. My youth and passion were drivers to move forward and deal with the resistance. I was optimistic, hopeful and imagined a future that would make up for the sins of the past.

      I admit my optimism has been diminished as the world continues to loose species and numbers of wildlife. A dramatic decline in biodiversity since what was a new beginning a half century ago. There is much more awareness and more groups and people fighting the good fight for other species we share this earth with but we are only slowing the loss not preventing it. Even considering the progress made and the many worthwhile efforts I was part of, I am older and tired from the disappointments and less hopeful. But there is still some hope left and I play a small part where I can. Without hope there will be no change.

      Doshin
      Last edited by Doshin; 06-10-2023, 11:58 AM.

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      • Tairin
        Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 2849

        #4
        Thank you Kokuu

        This chapter is a continuation of last chapter. Dare to dream and then persevere to see that dream come true.

        The thing is that Business As Usual is a vision of the future. It’s a vision where somehow everything is alright and we (those of us privileged enough to live well) can continue to live as well or perhaps better in the future. It isn’t clear how the BAU vision treats the lesser fortunate. Maybe they don’t matter just so long as I get mine. As the book points out , the BAU vision of the future is reckless and unrealistic.

        The book overall is encouraging us to believe in the vision of The Great Turning. This vision is less clear because we haven’t lived it. I suspect we all have a slightly different vision of this future but the book encourages us to believe it is rooted in concepts of equality, peace, harmony of all creatures and things. This is a vision that borrows or leans on Indigenous knowledge. It sounds very utopian and yet also very consistent with our vows and practice here at TreeLeaf.

        The Great Unraveling is also a vision of the future and based on our discussions here in the Ecodharma corner, it sounds like the vision that most of us buy into. Again what it looks like is a bit nebulous but in general it seems bleak, harsh, and dystopian. A dying planet. It is probably this vision that motivates us to make any sort of change.

        This chapter encourages us to pick the future we want and to strive towards it. It is not telling us to look at the future we see and run away from it. The book is called “Active Hope” not “Active Fear”. I wonder how much of our future is a self fulfilling prophecy. If we (human beings collectively) see the future as bleak and dead then we figure why not live for the present.

        This little lecture is mostly aimed as myself. As I mentioned before I do tend towards pessimism.

        Maybe I am a bit slow but it is only in the last couple of chapters that I started to understand this book’s purpose.

        Do you have your own story of doing something despite strong opposition or internal doubts?
        What helped you to overcome those threshold guardians?
        What are the threshold guardians stopping you from taking more action now?


        Really most of my life has been pretty comfortable. I have tended to live a life that goes with the flow. In general my lack of striving has worked out. It may turn out my lifestyle will be my threshold guardians. The fact that I really haven’t had to strive against opposition or internal doubts may be the thing I need to overcome.


        Tairin
        Sat today and lah
        泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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        • Doshin
          Member
          • May 2015
          • 2640

          #5
          Using this thread to recommend schedule. Based on history;

          Chpt 11. Tairin

          Chpt 12. Naiko

          Chpt 13. Doshin


          May I suggest we stay with this Chapter another week to make sure anyone who has not commented still has time.

          Thank you

          Doshin

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          • Tairin
            Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 2849

            #6
            Sounds good to me Doshin


            Tairin
            Sat today and lah
            泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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            • Naiko
              Member
              • Aug 2019
              • 842

              #7
              Thank you, Kokuu, and everyone for your comments. I apologize for my tardy response; this is my busiest month of the year at work.

              This chapter has been much on my mind the past few weeks. I don’t think any experience in my life correlates to a long haul fight for change akin to those discussed in this chapter. I tried to imagine the lives of those people who fought on and on and seemed to get nowhere. I wonder how they kept hope alive. Maybe some did not.

              Looking back to the chapter that discussed ancestors, it helped me to think in terms of great scale and many hands. Let’s say we’re trying to push or pull an enormous boulder up an infinite mountain. Some superheroes will move it farther and faster. Some will move it in tiny increments. At times others will only be able to hold it in place. And there will be times it will slide backwards, with great effort expended just to slow it down. Every single effort is important. And no one can see the top of the mountain. I worry that we are running out of time, though.

              As much as we look around and see so much to do, so much that has been lost, I can’t imagine how much worse things would be without the great efforts by so many for the past 60 years or so.
              Gassho,
              Naiko
              st

              —I agree with the chapter assignments. It would be a great help to me if we could allow a couple of weeks in between each.

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              • Doshin
                Member
                • May 2015
                • 2640

                #8
                “Hope is being able to see that there is light despite all of the darkness.”
                — Desmond Tutu


                Doshin
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                • Tairin
                  Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 2849

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Doshin
                  “Hope is being able to see that there is light despite all of the darkness.”
                  — Desmond Tutu


                  Doshin
                  St
                  Perfect!!


                  Tairin
                  Sat today and lah
                  泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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