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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40617

    Homeless Kodo's "TO YOU" - Chapters 9, 10 & 11

    Hey Guys,

    I will put a catch up week in here this time, so nobody feels that they need to rush ...

    ~~~~~~~~~



    As it is a fairly easy read, and chapters are rather short, consisting mostly of small quotes, we will take a few chapters at a time. This week, Chapters 9, 10 and 11.

    The rules of the game are pretty easy: Just mention here, in our discussion, any quotes (none, one or many) that ring your bell and resonate with you, and briefly say why.

    That's it!

    If you need a version to "cut and paste" a quote, there is one here. However, PLEASE PURCHASE THE ACTUAL BOOK! I ask everyone to use the following only for ease in cutting and pasting a quote or two into this discussion, not for purposes of reading the entire book. Thank you!



    What trips your trigger, strikes your fancy, inspires and makes your day? Try to say why it does so for you. (You can also feel free to disagree with Ol' Kodo too, but be prepared to say why!)

    Gassho, Jundo

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • Mokuso
    Member
    • Mar 2020
    • 159

    #2
    Chapter 9
    “You've got to stand on solid feet, no matter what direction the wind might blow”

    If you have no solid ground to stand on or something to support yourself against, sooner or later you will still fall over. Regardless of whether you believe that your way, thought and action is good. Which in and of itself happens sometimes in life anyway. But the case won't be as hard or heavy if you have a firm foundation or something supportive.

    Chapter 10
    “Eat in order to do zazen, sleep in order to do zazen. This means that eating and sleeping are also part of zazen.”

    Zazen is not just sitting. You can do zazen in almost anything you do. Cleaning, walking, when you meet other people in conversation. For me it is being present in what I do. Not rushing in thought and thinking, what should i do next.

    Gassho, Mokuso

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    • Heiso
      Member
      • Jan 2019
      • 834

      #3
      "In zazen, the hips are rooted in the earth, the top of the head pierces the sky"

      Beautiful stuff.

      Gassho

      Heiso

      StLah

      Sent from my RMX2001 using Tapatalk

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      • paulashby

        #4
        "Only when you stop thinking'I do zazen' are you doing true zazen. page 61,chapter 11
        Self-consciousness is the most persistent distraction from reality.
        peace,Paul

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        • Onrin
          Member
          • Apr 2021
          • 194

          #5
          "If you don't have a clear, Buddhist approach to life, it would be better if you kept away from zazen practice."

          This could be understood in a few ways I think. Brad Warner's latest book is about the importance of ethics in zen practice, and goes into some possible pitfalls of zazen or meditation practice without also studying and taking Buddhist precepts/ethics to heart.

          But I can also see Zazen practice as a gateway to the study of Buddhist ethics, as it was for me.

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          • Soka
            Member
            • Jan 2017
            • 170

            #6
            When you sit, you’ve got to be one with Truman, Stalin and Mao. One person sits for everyone, everyone sits as one.
            A timely one when there are many people I know getting upset about Liz Truss. But it also reminds me of the importance of practicing compassion for those who I disagree with or who do awful things, and recognising that I am not so different to them.

            Gassho,
            Sōka
            sat

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            • Nengyoku
              Member
              • Jun 2021
              • 536

              #7
              In zazen, the hips are rooted in the Earth, the top of the head pierces the sky.
              The first time I sat meditation was with a guided meditation recording.
              I remember the instructor saying to be aware of your surroundings. Not just the things in front of you, but to try and expand your awareness to the room around you. The sounds, the smells, the sensations.
              And then to try and expand that further, listen to the cars on the street, or birdsong out the window.
              And then further, to try and visualize for a moment the whole world as one seamless object, and to feel as though it were part of your awareness.
              And then, to go even further, and try to visualize the entire universe. Everything. With nothing left out.

              I remember trying to think "What does EVERYTHING look like?" And I couldn't do it. I just pictured myself, sitting in that room, trying to do it.

              Now, looking back, maybe that was exactly me picturing everything. Trying to think of the universe just brings me back to me. Like Jundo says, I am just the Universe Nengyoku-ing, and the universe is just me universing.

              To me, that's what I think of when I read "The top of the head pierces the sky".

              Gassho,
              Nengyoku
              Sat
              Thank you for being the warmth in my world.

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              • Heikyo
                Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 105

                #8
                You go swimming every morning in cold water. So what? A goldfish does that all the time.
                You’ve quit smoking? Yeah so what? A cat doesn’t smoke either.
                However proud you are of how well you run after this and run away from that, it’s nothing more than wandering around in the world of impermanence.
                This made me chuckle. These are achievements in the every day world, but they mean nothing to the universe. I think we can all be guilty in having excessive pride in our achievements and measuring them against other people. But at the end of the day we are all one, so what do those achievements actually mean?

                Gassho
                Paul
                sat, LAH

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                • Amelia
                  Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4985

                  #9
                  "Life doesn't run on tracks."

                  I should probably remember this more often.


                  sat, lah
                  求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                  I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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                  • Shokai
                    Dharma Transmitted Priest
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6393

                    #10
                    If you prefer to believe in this or that other sect, go and follow them. Only those
                    who really want to practice zazen should do so.
                    What is zazen good for? Zazen is good for absolutely nothing!
                    Zazen is the buddha that we form out of our raw flesh.
                    When you practice zazen, completely renew yourself.
                    Oh, that I had heard these words twenty years ago

                    gassho, shokai
                    合掌,生開
                    gassho, Shokai

                    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

                    https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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                    • JudyE
                      Member
                      • Mar 2022
                      • 52

                      #11
                      These stand out for me this week (both from Chapter 10):

                      Eat in order to do zazen, sleep in order to do zazen. This means that eating and sleeping are also part of zazen.

                      Our zazen is like waking up from hibernation to a completely new world.
                      I’m reminded of how zazen brings me back to reality— even if it’s just for a moment. When that happens, even the most ordinary parts of life look new.

                      Gassho,
                      Judy
                      sat/lah

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                      • ZenKen
                        Member
                        • Mar 2022
                        • 149

                        #12
                        I found two that have really resonated with me in these chapters:

                        Chapter 9
                        However much you accomplish in this life, in the end you won't have anything to show for it. You will die naked.
                        I found this one reassuring in a way, that it's okay to not strive for material goods or a fancy job title. I've never been hugely ambitious in that way, which has led to previous managers telling me that "I'll never get anywhere". Maybe I should have thanked them for the lesson when they said that!

                        The other one is from Chapter 11:
                        If it's even the slightest bit personalised, it isn't pure, unadulterated zazen.
                        We've got to practice genuine, pure zazen , without mixing it with gymnastics or satori or anything. When we bring in our personal ideas - even only a little bit - it's no longer the buddha-dharma.
                        I like this one as a reminder that we can spend time looking for the perfect zafu or the best loose cotton trousers that won't cut off our circulation or our personal little rituals to get ready to sit, but none of them are as important as 60 seconds of true, focused zazen. And that we'll get more (without getting) from those 60 seconds than from all the dedicated preparation that is nonetheless as far from zazen as it's possible to get. 'Getting ready' for zazen is not sitting zazen. Stop fussing!

                        Gassho
                        Anna
                        sattoday
                        Prioritising great gratitude.

                        ZenKen (Anna)
                        禅犬

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                        • Zenkon
                          Member
                          • May 2020
                          • 226

                          #13
                          I was struck by the saying
                          The phenomenal world isn't something that same God made. It arises through interdependent causation
                          . This reminds me that we are all connected to each other and to our world.

                          I was also struck by the saying
                          Apart from zazen, all of your "good deeds" come out of your ego-consciousness, because you're always thinking, "I do good."
                          . Here, I disagree. Many times, when we act out of generosity, we do so because we expect a "reward" - a "thank you". But, when we act out of true altruistic generosity, such as anonymous contribution, we are truly acting to benefit others and not get any ego reward.

                          Gassho

                          Zenkon
                          sat/lah

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                          • Tai Do
                            Member
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 1456

                            #14
                            In our practice, there’s nothing sacred besides zazen. It’s zazen that saves us ordinary beings by taking our raw flesh and molding it into zazen.
                            Nenbutsu practiced with a peaceful mind is true nenbutsu. Zazen practiced with a peaceful mind is genuine zazen.
                            Nenbutsu practiced in order to get peace of mind isn’t true nenbutsu. Zazen practiced in order to get peace of mind isn’t true zazen.
                            It reminds me to not over-ritualize things and focus more on zazen than in rituals
                            Gassho,
                            Mateus
                            Satlah
                            怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
                            (also known as Mateus )

                            禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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                            • Nengyoku
                              Member
                              • Jun 2021
                              • 536

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Zenkon
                              'Apart from zazen, all of your "good deeds" come out of your ego-consciousness, because you're always thinking, "I do good."'

                              I was also struck by the saying . Here, I disagree. Many times, when we act out of generosity, we do so because we expect a "reward" - a "thank you". But, when we act out of true altruistic generosity, such as anonymous contribution, we are truly acting to benefit others and not get any ego reward.

                              Gassho

                              Zenkon
                              sat/lah
                              While I agree that this quote seems quite pessimistic I think the argument would be that even with the most altruistic, anonymous contribution there is still something there that can feed your pride.
                              Making a donation to charity isn't inherently good, we just as a society have drawn the distinction that action is good.
                              But our practice is to drop even those distinctions.

                              And that zazen, which does not come from our ego-consciousness, comes from the understanding that we are all one seamless whole. And there is no "I" to do the good.

                              Thank you for this food for thought, as I kind of just brushed over this quote.

                              Gassho,
                              Nengyoku
                              SatLah
                              Last edited by Jundo; 09-10-2022, 03:28 AM.
                              Thank you for being the warmth in my world.

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