Case 52 never ends, and so we look to Case 53, Obaku's Dregs ...
Obaku was a great Zen Teacher in China who offered many Teachings to his many students, including, "there are no Teachers". What could he mean? Shishin Wick (another Teacher) offers a very good commentary. One might say that Zen cannot be "taught" because the student must do all the heavy lifting and climbing, and the "Teacher" is more like a spotter and coach in the gym or a guidepost pointing the general direction. Zen Teachings are also not something that one gets from a book sitting in an armchair, but must be learned and cultivated through one's own Practice.
One might also say that aspects of Zen cannot be taught by a "Teacher" to "Students" because there are aspects so whole that not the slightest separation of subject and object, teacher/teaching/student ... so no thing to be a "teaching," and nobody to teach or be taught it (see our last couple of Koans on the Dharmakaya on non-boat boats and wells that see donkeys!)
Still, Zen teachers talk out of both sides of their no-sided mouth, so saying that there are no teachers/teachings/students does -not- mean that there are not also teachers/teachings/students ... including the "teaching" that there both are and are not teachers/teachings/students.
This may also be the double meaning of the preamble on "not seeing Buddha" (is it because one misses the point, or because there is no Buddha who is separate from you to see?) and the sword that cuts heaven and earth into pieces. The appreciatory verse is also filled with images of divided and separate things ... split roads, threads of a cloth, leaves and flowers, tangles, shards and hairs, measuring scales and rulers. However, Zen symbols like the bright mirror and the golden sword of "Wisdom" actually work to unite what is separate ... for all individual things become one within the image of the clear mirror, and the sword "unrends" what is two. To the wise eye, the separate thread becomes the whole tapestry (that image appeared in our last Koan too), the flowers the whole garden, and heaven-earth just one, all roads lead here etc. The sword uncuts, the golden and jeweled ruler and scale unweigh and non-measure!
The "cloud and water inscribing tool on the potters wheel" surely refers to novice monks in training (called "unsui", clouds and water, in Zen lingo) who are being formed like pottery by the potter (but are "wheel" "potter" and "vessel" one or three?) The reference to getting a handle on Southerners might refer to this famous dialogue when the future 6th Ancestor (from the Southern "boondocks" of Lingnan China, considered an ignorant backwater) first met his teacher Hung-jen. ...
Shishin also points out that the best teachers and teachings are sure to be often so disappointing. If that is the case, I must be an excellent teacher, and the above a fine teaching! ![Black Eyed](https://forum.treeleaf.org/core/images/smilies/black_eyed.png)
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Gassho, J
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Obaku was a great Zen Teacher in China who offered many Teachings to his many students, including, "there are no Teachers". What could he mean? Shishin Wick (another Teacher) offers a very good commentary. One might say that Zen cannot be "taught" because the student must do all the heavy lifting and climbing, and the "Teacher" is more like a spotter and coach in the gym or a guidepost pointing the general direction. Zen Teachings are also not something that one gets from a book sitting in an armchair, but must be learned and cultivated through one's own Practice.
One might also say that aspects of Zen cannot be taught by a "Teacher" to "Students" because there are aspects so whole that not the slightest separation of subject and object, teacher/teaching/student ... so no thing to be a "teaching," and nobody to teach or be taught it (see our last couple of Koans on the Dharmakaya on non-boat boats and wells that see donkeys!)
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The "cloud and water inscribing tool on the potters wheel" surely refers to novice monks in training (called "unsui", clouds and water, in Zen lingo) who are being formed like pottery by the potter (but are "wheel" "potter" and "vessel" one or three?) The reference to getting a handle on Southerners might refer to this famous dialogue when the future 6th Ancestor (from the Southern "boondocks" of Lingnan China, considered an ignorant backwater) first met his teacher Hung-jen. ...
"The priest Hung-jen asked me: 'Where are you from that you come to this mountain to make obeisance to me? Just what is it that you are looking for from me?'
I replied: 'I am from Ling-nan, a commoner from Hsin-chou. I have come this long distance only to make obeisance to you. I am seeking no particular thing, but only the Buddhadharma.'
The Master then reproved me, saying: 'If you're from Ling-nan then you're a barbarian. How can you become a Buddha?'
I replied: 'Although people from the south and people from the north differ, there is no north and south in Buddha nature. Although my barbarian's body and your body are not the same, what difference
is there in our Buddha nature?'
I replied: 'I am from Ling-nan, a commoner from Hsin-chou. I have come this long distance only to make obeisance to you. I am seeking no particular thing, but only the Buddhadharma.'
The Master then reproved me, saying: 'If you're from Ling-nan then you're a barbarian. How can you become a Buddha?'
I replied: 'Although people from the south and people from the north differ, there is no north and south in Buddha nature. Although my barbarian's body and your body are not the same, what difference
is there in our Buddha nature?'
![Black Eyed](https://forum.treeleaf.org/core/images/smilies/black_eyed.png)
Do you have a Teaching to offer?
![Gassho 1](https://forum.treeleaf.org/core/images/smilies/gassho1.gif)
Gassho, J
SatToday
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