Book of Equanimity Case 25

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  • Shujin
    Novice Priest-in-Training
    • Feb 2010
    • 1187

    #16
    Still sitting in the ice cave, off to read Shobogenzo.

    Gassho.
    Kyōdō Shujin 教道 守仁

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    • alan.r
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 546

      #17
      How do we throw away the fan? Not anything to throw away except the need to throw something away. Some sorrow is blue sky. Listen to my eyes. No me and you, so let's sit here together.
      Shōmon

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      • Kaishin
        Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 2322

        #18
        Why the need to fetch what's already here?



        Gassho, Kaishin
        Thanks,
        Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
        Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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        • RichardH
          Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 2800

          #19
          We sit together, the mountain and me,
          until only the mountain remains.

          A million tons,
          yet weightless

          Gassho, Daizan

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          • santosh
            Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 54

            #20
            The teacher or if you prefer, life itself, always asks us to present, display, show our realization- being rather than talk about it.
            My understanding of Enkan's Rhinoceros Koan is absolutely broken. Nothing left to fetch.

            Thank you for urging me with your teaching.

            Gassho,
            Santosh.

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            • Ed
              Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 223

              #21
              The nature of fan is the nature of wind.
              The nature of wind is the nature of air.
              Air covers the world, fan is gone.
              Have a cup of tea.
              "Know that the practice of zazen is the complete path of buddha-dharma and nothing can be compared to it....it is not the practice of one or two buddhas but all the buddha ancestors practice this way."
              Dogen zenji in Bendowa





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              • Matt
                Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 497

                #22
                'How do you throw away the fan? Because as long as there is a person to throw away something, the fan is still there. How do I throw away the fan without hands and head?'

                Thank you for this question, and for the responses in this thread. I would echo some others re the dropping away thing. But know that the echoing is not the dropping away.

                Gassho,
                Matt

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                • jeff_u
                  Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 130

                  #23
                  There is a broken fan before me.
                  Yet it is not broken, only my mind is broken.
                  No mind, no fan. Empty.
                  ...
                  Drinking tea by the ocean.
                  There is a broken fan before me.

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                  • galen
                    Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 322

                    #24
                    Some insightful posts here.

                    Taigu... some confusion on my part. In your saying that the attendant (student) in showing his lack of ability, inadequacy and/or being totally fooled, does not seem to be Wicks take on this Main Case. He says the attendant was no slouch (page 79, third paragraph), by him stating that the horn is broken... ie, it wasn't broken till he brought it up and started talking about it, but that broke It; now its broken.

                    Does that not also point to the question in the Preface... "Where is the fault?" (any attachment to pain or pleasure)


                    Gassho
                    Nothing Special

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                    • Gen01
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 39

                      #25
                      Thank you Jundo!
                      Gassho.

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                      • Taigu
                        Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 2710

                        #26
                        Hi Galen,

                        Trying to put reality into words, the fan breaks. And yet, there s no other way. We have to say something.

                        Take great care

                        Gassho


                        Taigu

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                        • Taigu
                          Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 2710

                          #27
                          Hi Galen,

                          Trying to put reality into words, the fan breaks. And yet, there s no other way. We have to say something.

                          Take great care

                          Gassho


                          Taigu

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                          • Kyonin
                            Dharma Transmitted Priest
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 6752

                            #28
                            How can something break when that something is the universe?

                            Nothing to break. Nothing to throw away.

                            Just the universe and all that is empty.

                            Vacuum.

                            Thank you for this teaching.

                            Gassho,

                            Kyonin
                            Hondō Kyōnin
                            奔道 協忍

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                            • galen
                              Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 322

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Taigu
                              Hi Galen,

                              Trying to put reality into words, the fan breaks. And yet, there s no other way. We have to say something.

                              Take great care

                              Gassho


                              Taigu


                              Well `said, Taigu.

                              And sometimes both sides of the same coin is the something.

                              Thank you for your patience.


                              Gassho
                              Nothing Special

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                              • Shogen
                                Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 301

                                #30
                                Untouched perfection
                                Words placed aside
                                Allowing the radiance
                                Of reality
                                In a single pearl
                                Gassho, Shogen

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