Grass Hut - 20 - "Steady Practice"

[Jundo]

Dear All,

We now move to the first portion of Chapter 16, "The Foundations of Freedom: Steady Practice".

I agree that steady practice is vital to our way. The daily monkish routine in a monastery is tightly scheduled, steady practice, one event or job or lecture or Zazen sitting or meal following the next.

It is probably not necessary (or possible) for you to develop a rigid, morning to night steady practice. However, have you been able to develop some stability and routine to your practice?

Is Zazen your anchor in the storm?

Gassho, Jundo

SatToday

[Shinzan]

Just following the schedule of whatever needs doing today is where I try to practice. Going with the flow, but with curiousity and awareness. What is it like to be here-now? What's alive right now, for me and for the other person? Slowing down to the speed of my life helps.

_/\_ Shinzan
sattoday

[Joyo]

This part of chapter 16 makes me want to sit, and sit, and sit some more. Yes, I have a daily practice that is part of my routine, and actually my entire day is my practice as I am aware of it frequently throughout the day. My biggest struggle is the "being at ease" part. I have to remind myself to accept things as they are, equanimity, being aware of the big mind/small mind/cramped attic. Zazen is slowly helping me with this.

Zazen, for me, is like a strong tree in a wind storm. It may bend in the direction the wind pushes it, but it is firmly planted in the ground.

Gassho,
Joyo
sat today

[Nindo]

Jundo, the title of this thread seems to refer to a different chapter - could you fix that please?
I really have to catch up with reading ...

Gassho
Nindo

[ForestDweller]

Creating a routine that suits life in the Forest is, admittedly, much easier that it was when we lived in the city. That said, the more routine I integrate into daily/weekly life, the more freedom arises -- even freedom to deviate from the routine, as appropriate. It's dangerous to have too many "projects" going at once, so we're careful to keep our lives/work simple enough so that such projects remain at a sane level. How many activities are really important enough to include in life every day/week anyway? Also, within a routine lies more opportunity to practice because mind isn't so cluttered with fragments of a "to do" list. Clarity of a mind,, less cluttered, makes way to see the practice opportunities. Life is finite. Great care should be exercised when allowing an activity or project to enter our space and time. Keep the routine as clean and clear as possible - only the best survives such a test. -
^^ForestSatToday^^

[Jishin]

Hi,

Is Zazen an anchor in the storm? Yes. How so? It just is. No need to say more. No urge to say more.

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

[Mp]

I agree that steady practice is vital to our way. The daily monkish routine in a monastery is tightly scheduled, steady practice, one event or job or lecture or Zazen sitting or meal following the next.

It is probably not necessary (or possible) for you to develop a rigid, morning to night steady practice. However, have you been able to develop some stability and routine to your practice?

Is Zazen your anchor in the storm?

Thank you Jundo,

For me, sitting each morning, evening, and maybe moments within a day, where needed, allows me to fully be the boatman on this sea of life. Zazen is truly the anchor in ruff seas. It allows me to be grounded, to not get caught up in the storm and float away, but rather, to flow with it ... to ride the waves and know the storm too will pass. I also feel this practice, just sitting, gives me the confidence to know that all will be ok, even when I see the storm brewing up a head - to be both open and inviting. =)

Gassho
Shingen

#sattoday

[Kaishin]

However, have you been able to develop some stability and routine to your practice?

Is Zazen your anchor in the storm?

Gassho, Jundo

SatToday

It comes and goes. Sometimes strong, sometimes week. This year has been unsteady for me. I feel like a pretty crappy practitioner at this point. I'm very busy, but I also have a lot of excuses. Often I have the time but not the mental or physical energy. So my sitting is not as regular as it should be. Or I should say "formal" sitting. I try to at least do five minutes of bedside zazen on days when I am just drained. Excuses, excuses. I keep at it.

-satToday

[Jeremy]

Zazen seems to create time and space, so sitting every evening is a habit that for me, luckily, is not hard to stick to.

Gassho
Jeremy
SatToday

[Rich]

In steady practice not moving is established in the eye of the storm.

SAT today

[RichardH]

Zazen is the anchor, and the anchor of the anchor is group practice. I couldn't do it alone unless it was really alone in the woods. In the middle of family and work the anchor is practice with Sangha.

Gassho
Daizan


sat today

[ForestDweller]

It comes and goes. Sometimes strong, sometimes week. This year has been unsteady for me. I feel like a pretty crappy practitioner at this point. I'm very busy, but I also have a lot of excuses. Often I have the time but not the mental or physical energy. So my sitting is not as regular as it should be. Or I should say "formal" sitting. I try to at least do five minutes of bedside zazen on days when I am just drained. Excuses, excuses. I keep at it.

-satToday

Kaishin - whoever and wherever you are, you seem to be pretty hard on yourself. I can feel you bashing yourself and it hurts. Just being aware that you view yourself as a "crappy practitioner" means you ARE AWARE. That is a beginning. Between the lines, it seems you are expecting perfection -- the right mental and physical energy to SIT, no "excuses" to SIT, that your SITTING should be "formal." Shikan Taza is JUST SITTING - just that - no perfection required. No particular time duration to SIT, no particular formalities to SIT, and (careful here) no particular regularity to sit (as in always at this time, every day, for x amount of time). Perhaps consider letting all the oughts/shoulds/musts drop away and simply SIT whenever and for however long you can. Also maybe keep in mind that our practice is ALWAYS happening whatever we do, so opportunities for regularity are limitless. It's good to hear that you "keep at it." Easy, easy, and just SIT.
^^ForestSatToday^^ - CatherineS/Forest Dweller

[Risho]

Zazen is the anchor, and the anchor of the anchor is group practice. I couldn't do it alone unless it was really alone in the woods. In the middle of family and work the anchor is practice with Sangha.

Gassho
Daizan


sat today

Even though I'm not present with Treeleaf, I'm always present with Treeleaf. The group here supports me in tons of ways and has been vital in not letting my questioning question me right out of practice.

I just read a really cool book called "Stumbling Towards Enlightenment" by a practitioner Geri Larkin, who practices in a Korean lineage of Zen. It's really good -- I don't agree with all of it necessarily, but it talks about this. I have found practice to be an anchor, and it's especially vital to sit when I don't want to sit.

I've been thinking about (and not to bring this up again) trusting in practice. I trust in practice by practicing. No matter the circumstances, if I'm to follow this practice, then I need to practice this practice. If I'm having a "bad" day, or I don't like how things are going, it's still a good day if I can practice. Practice is limitless.. but it's also very personal.

Gassho,

Risho
-sattoday

Edit: I absolutely love the Lex Hixon quote -- Zen practice is dirty, grimy... it's not running away from, it's staying put and facing things.. facing our anger, fear, lust, etc. so we can see it for what it is, and by doing that we feel a bond to others because we know others by knowing ourselves, and we learn how this practice then benefits others (Not two) -- sorry for the edit -- just got pumped up. lol

[Kaishin]

Thank you, Catherine

[RichardH]

Even though I'm not present with Treeleaf, I'm always present with Treeleaf. The group here supports me in tons of ways and has been vital in not letting my questioning question me right out of practice.

I just read a really cool book called "Stumbling Towards Enlightenment" by a practitioner Geri Larkin, who practices in a Korean lineage of Zen. It's really good -- I don't agree with all of it necessarily, but it talks about this. I have found practice to be an anchor, and it's especially vital to sit when I don't want to sit.

I've been thinking about (and not to bring this up again) trusting in practice. I trust in practice by practicing. No matter the circumstances, if I'm to follow this practice, then I need to practice this practice. If I'm having a "bad" day, or I don't like how things are going, it's still a good day if I can practice. Practice is limitless.. but it's also very personal.

Gassho,

Risho
-sattoday

Edit: I absolutely love the Lex Hixon quote -- Zen practice is dirty, grimy... it's not running away from, it's staying put and facing things.. facing our anger, fear, lust, etc. so we can see it for what it is, and by doing that we feel a bond to others because we know others by knowing ourselves, and we learn how this practice then benefits others (Not two) -- sorry for the edit -- just got pumped up. lol

Hi Risho. Larkin's teacher was my first zen teacher. Over a five year period I never really felt connected to him, never felt like his student... he could be sweet, and really tough too. He used to say he was a tiger, not a dog, so he would not follow any stick someone throws but go straight for the thrower. This meant experiencing crushing humiliation sometimes in front of the sangha. Then he would smile and be nice. It is not for everyone, and a very different style than Treeleaf. I learned to sit through anything and had a lot of meaningful experiences, but always fell back on a form of "just sitting" taught by (of all people) a Theravadin friend. Treeleaf picks up where that gentle friend left off. Maybe sitting with sangha as an anchor comes from that time. Group practice offline or online (amazingly not so different) is just more powerful in my experience..

Just some thoughts.

Gassho
Daizan

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