Grass Hut - 3 - Nothing of Value

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  • Byokan
    Senior Priest-in-Training
    • Apr 2014
    • 4284

    #16
    Hahaha! And I was thinking, gosh, everyone else's understanding is so deep, they're pulling out subtle meanings I didn't even see!

    Gassho
    Lisa
    sat today

    (p.s. but no haha's about those weeds, Kokuu -- may you be well and at ease.)
    Last edited by Byokan; 03-24-2015, 09:59 AM.
    展道 渺寛 Tendō Byōkan
    Please take my words with a big grain of salt. I know nothing. Wisdom is only found in our whole-hearted practice together.

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    • Tai Shi
      Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 3453

      #17
      Hello Jundo and all,

      I now have the book on my Kindle and this afternoon I can get busy with the reading. I viewed the last Zazenkai and was able to enjoy the discussion of the book. I'm a little behind and I'll be caught up by this evening. I'm glad you are taking the book in "small bites." Thank you.

      Elgwyn
      sat today
      Gassho_/\_
      Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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      • Shoka
        Member
        • May 2014
        • 2370

        #18
        Originally posted by Joyo
        Oh geesh, I'm embarrassed now lol!! Ok, I will re-read Nothing of Value. Thank you, Jundo and all for pointing this out
        Joyo, I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused.

        Typical for me, hurry up just to find I'm behind.

        Gassho,
        Shoka

        Sattoday

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        • Risho
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 3178

          #19
          hahahaha thank you for clarifying

          Gassho,

          Risho
          -sattoday
          Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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          • Mp

            #20
            Originally posted by Joyo
            Oh geesh, I'm embarrassed now lol!! Ok, I will re-read Nothing of Value. Thank you, Jundo and all for pointing this out

            Gassho,
            Joyo
            sat today
            I know what yah mean ... with such a jewel of a book, it is hard not to gobble it down. =)

            Gassho
            Shingen

            SatToday

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            • Joyo

              #21
              Originally posted by Shingen
              I know what yah mean ... with such a jewel of a book, it is hard not to gobble it down. =)

              Gassho
              Shingen

              SatToday
              Oh no, I must confess I totally agree and now I am making this book something of great value.

              Gassho,
              Joyo
              sat today

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              • Kaishin
                Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 2322

                #22
                Slow is good! 🐌
                Thanks,
                Matt
                Thanks,
                Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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                • Rich
                  Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2615

                  #23
                  Yes, I was way ahead too and somewhat not relating to the discussion 😊
                  But the great thing about this book is you can go back and enjoy it even more.
                  Accepting this invitation to be present is so right.

                  Sat today
                  _/_
                  Rich
                  MUHYO
                  無 (MU, Emptiness) and 氷 (HYO, Ice) ... Emptiness Ice ...

                  https://instagram.com/notmovingmind

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                  • Risho
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 3178

                    #24
                    I think this point is such the crux of Zen that I can't say anything about it without missing the mark, but I'm still going to. lol I feel this in my bones during practice, and I know this in my heart of hearts in the world. I often habitually react quite differently, but I know the sunlight behind the clouds, with the clouds, is the clouds. Sun is sun, clouds are clouds. Sun is clouds, clouds are sun. What cloud, what sun, what self anyway? What self is reading this if no self? What self is reading this if no self!

                    Judgements help us take care of ourselves. That's fine, but judgments that separate us are added jewelry that isn't necessary. I think Dr. Martin Luther King was such a Bodhisattva in this way; in the face of oppression, he realized that non-violence was the path despite the fact that it would still result in more harm to himself. Non-violence is the way to connection and peace because it is a peaceful act. It's an expression of how things can be, an example to others. Practice is an example to ourselves and to each other. In that way it's such a wonderful gift of unity and peace.

                    Gassho,

                    Risho
                    -sattoday
                    Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                    • Byrne
                      Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 371

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Risho
                      ...an expression of how things can be...
                      Risho,

                      Those words really popped out at me. Thank you.

                      Gassho

                      Sat Today

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                      • Jishin
                        Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 4821

                        #26
                        Grass Hut - 3 - Nothing of Value

                        Hi,

                        Two patients arrive at the emergency room in critical condition. There are resources to treat only one patient at a time and whoever goes first lives. The doctor is about to flip a coin to see who goes first but then he learns that the injuries are a result of a shoot out between a good guy and a bad guy. Who should be treated first? The good or the bad guy? Whose life has more value?

                        Gassho, Jishin, _/st\_
                        Last edited by Jishin; 03-26-2015, 11:21 AM.

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                        • Jika
                          Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 1337

                          #27
                          "the patiens (plural) and the bad guy are the ones involved" ??
                          How many are there, and who's who, and who will be who in future?
                          You Jishin my brain.

                          Judging and picking should die.
                          The doc's self-importance to see the truth should.
                          I'm all for the coin; or an evidance based triage system.

                          Gassho,
                          Danny
                          #sattoday
                          治 Ji
                          花 Ka

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                          • Jishin
                            Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4821

                            #28
                            YOU are the doctor and you took an oath to never hurt a patient. Who lives, the good or the bad guy?

                            Gassho, Jishin, _/st\_

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                            • Jika
                              Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 1337

                              #29
                              Unnecessary information.
                              Maybe the cop has a damaged brain due to hypoxemia (like me) and will be a bad guy in future.
                              Maybe the bad guy (accepting this label for now, but what makes him bad?) will, after he's rescued, be a real saint.
                              No one in that ER is of value.
                              And I'd do where I see the greatest chances of the equipment and my little knowledge be of help.
                              Being aware of the limitations. And probably very sad, once I have time to think.

                              Gassho,
                              Danny
                              #sattoday
                              治 Ji
                              花 Ka

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                              • Jishin
                                Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 4821

                                #30
                                YOU are the bad guy and you tell the doctor your life has no value and he should treat the good guy first. What does the doctor do then?

                                Gassho, Jishin, _/st\_

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