SIT-A-LONG with Jundo: Why Zen Folks FAIL!! (2) - FAIL-NO-FAIL

[Jeremy]

This is a great talk
It gives me the feeling (hopefully not illusory) that the penny is starting to drop, as we say in England.

Gassho,
Jeremy
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[Kyonin]

Oh boy, that was bad English. Sorry

Gassho,

Kyonin
#SatToday

Kinda Zen-grammar there, Kyonin! Even me, Mr. "Failnofail", was left scratching-not-scratching my head!

Gassho, J

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[Ishin]

I would like to think I am at least a c+ BUT ,I also know I am constantly failing. What I take away from all of this also is really seeing how the difficult people are all on the path too, even though they might not know it.

Gassho
Ishin
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[Byokan]

Thank you Jundo.

Gassho
Lisa
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[Onkai]

Thank you Jundo.

Gassho,
Onkai
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[Jundo]

Hmm. Maybe I should revive this series with a couple of more episodes.

Gassho, J

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[Jakuden]

Hmm. Maybe I should revive this series with a couple of more episodes.

Gassho, J

SatToday

Yes please do!

Gassho,
Jakuden
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[Onkai]

More episodes would be wonderful.

Gassho,
Onkai
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[Tai Do]

Thank you for this teaching, Jundo. Just what I needed to hear.
Gassho,
Mateus
Sat/LAH

[vanbui]

Thank you Jundo for this teaching. This reminds me of the concept of nonduality.

Gassho
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[Kevin Benbow]

Gassho

Klb

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[RobKen]

There is another little talk from awhile back that touches on this ...



gratitude & Great Gratitude

http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?11275-SIT-A-LONG-with-Jundo-gratitude-Great-Gratitude

Gassho, J

SatToday

Are you you saying maybe that from the perspective of this transcendence of Great Gratitude that we might find there is something which "shines" and is pleasant about our worst failures? Kind of like, as egotistical and confused as I was, I was just being myself, and even if the outcome is tragic it can be like watching a sad theater piece or movie. There is a Buddhist saying that the poison is the medicine, and when the perspective clicks, there is sweetness within and even because of the failure, even while seeing there was egotism that caused the failure.

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Gassho,
Robert

[Jundo]

Are you you saying maybe that from the perspective of this transcendence of Great Gratitude that we might find there is something which "shines" and is pleasant about our worst failures? Kind of like, as egotistical and confused as I was, I was just being myself, and even if the outcome is tragic it can be like watching a sad theater piece or movie. There is a Buddhist saying that the poison is the medicine, and when the perspective clicks, there is sweetness within and even because of the failure, even while seeing there was egotism that caused the failure.

Sat Today,

Gassho,
Robert

Hi Rob,

Yes, I believe that is very much what I am saying.

And yet, Zen always cuts with a two sided no sided sword! There is something which "shines" even in our worst failures, and ultimately no place to fail (for the universe is always a success at being the universe by just being the universe ) ...

... and yet, we learn from our mistakes, do not just wallow in our failure, vow to do better, fix the damage we did where we can, make amends where we can, move forward with greater care and attention from here on, try not to do it again ...

... repeat as needed ...

Gassho, J

stlah

[Houzan]

Thank you for this, Jundo. Such a profound teaching. Starting to get a sense of it, this true and radical equanimity. Like drinking white wine that taste like cat pee, but still be interested and enjoying the experience

Gassho, Michael
Satlah

[Jundo]

Thank you for this, Jundo. Such a profound teaching. Starting to get a sense of it, this true and radical equanimity. Like drinking white wine that taste like cat pee, but still be interested and enjoying the experience

Gassho, Michael
Satlah

White wine and cat pee are all the same to a Buddha ... both liquids, atoms, with the pee invaluable to life, just precious, maybe more needed for life than any wine. No pee, no life.

Nonetheless, wine is not cat pee. Even the cat knows the difference.

Gassho, J

stlah