A Step Too Far: A Way for Refugees and Deserving Immigrants

[Tai Shi]

Tai Shi here, and though my Dharma means calm poetry, sometimes I have been less than calm about what I see as important issues. If fact, I have lost two friends because of my strong hotheadedness. and there are other friends who have asked about my loyalty, still others who remain silent. Yet I must agree wit all of Jundo's compassion, and somehow remain calm.

Tai Shi
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Gassho.

[Troy]

Thank you Jundo


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Troy

[Jyukatsu]

Thank you for speaking on this Jundo, it has to be said.
And Shokai, I am shocked reading your post and deeply saddened.
Peace and metta to all....
Gassho,

Marina
sat today

[Seishin]

I am glad that you have put aside the usual non-political aspect of the Sangha to give this message. The action that has been taken alienates the US and gives fuel and ammunition to the extremist of this world to further their causes. I try to be as non-political as possible but I guess this kind of knee jerk reaction, is exactly what many folk feared when Trump was elected for office. It parallels the paranoia that resulted in the ignorant and nationalistic minded folk to vote for Brexit but in reality that decision will never stop people heading to Britain. It is another sad day for this Universe. So many small minded people.

May I add, much metta to the victims of the Quebec shootings and reluctantly (I still have much to learn) to those foolhardy few that committed such an atrocity.

[Kaisho]

Thank you for talking on this and how it relates to the Dharma. I have been following this since breaking and there are some very good and intelligent people working on this. Also I believe interfaith community is a great way to find some mutual understanding and show support / Solidarity.

Gassho
Sat2day
Chelsea

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[Ryumon]

Thank you.

Gassho,

Kirk

[Risho]

Thank you Jundo.

To paraphrase Mark Zuckerberg, in a CNN article, a ban should focus on actual threats, and I agree. Duh! I mean it's obvious!

This is where things can get dangerous, and I know this is obvious or should be but it seems that obvious truths aren't so obvious anymore. When we start attributing the negative actions of a few to all of a "group", things get really really dangerous. When we allow fear to dictate our policies, we will see enemies everywhere. I like safety and security and prosperity, etc. But we need to really be careful that those wants are balanced with the needs of other people.

We've got to, and I mean everyone of us, have to be extra cautious in our use of language. We've got to not allow demagoguery and emotion rule our beliefs and thoughts; we have to fight for freedom even when it's difficult. Part of right speech is accurate speech. It's a struggle sometimes to not push away people who look different or look like they are up to no good; but we have logic for a reason. We need to rely on that to guide us as a nation. We need to not give in to racism or culturalism, etc.

I mean we have to be able to take care of each other. And I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I just have to say something.

Gassho,

Rish
-sattoday

[Myosha]

Hello,

The President is enforcing the last president's law (passed in 2015, signed by BHO in 2016).

Syria is the only nation mentioned in the President's Executive Order ( the other six were inserted by BHO and the main stream media). "No one's lost money underestimating the American people."- P.T. Barnum

So, to begin this missive:

This not what Gautama Buddha might say; but rather Dougie Budd-Ha -


In his teachings, we find the answer:

“Trump insulted me, Trump beat me (in election), robbed me!”
Think this way and hatred never ends.
“Trump insulted me, Trump beat me (Electoral College), robbed me!”
Give this up and in you hatred ends.
Not by hate is hate defeated;
hate is quenched by no-hate.
This is eternal law.
(Dhammapada 3-5 Version 2.0)


Gassho
Myosha
sat today

P.S. No one cares disrespecting the man. Respect the Office.

[Sekishi]

A Step too Far: A Way for Refugees and Deserving Immigrants

The President is enforcing the last president's law (passed in 2015, signed by BHO in 2016).

Syria is the only nation mentioned in the President's Executive Order ( the other six were inserted by BHO and the main stream media).

Not exactly.

It is true that the original list of "countries of concern" were part of the "Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015", a rider attached to H.R.158 (a so called "must pass" omnibus spending bill). However, H.R. 158 did not block general travel or immigration from any specific countries or based on any particular religion. It did revoke travel privileges from certain people previously covered under the Visa Waver Program.

I'm on mobile at the moment, so research is a pain, but here are a few links.

The ACLU's take in 2015: https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/f...58_final_1.pdf

An article from the Center for Immegration studies (also in 2015): http://cis.org/Brief-Analysis-HR-158...ement-Act-2015

U.S. Customs & Border Protection FAQ archived from November 2016 that the "restrictions do not bar travel to the United States":

http://archive.is/B9uGu

Gassho,
Sekishi #sattoday

Update - another link that might shed some light: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ration-restri/

[adrianbkelly]

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Ade

[Konsetsu]

Thank you Jundo.

Gassho
Konsetsu
SatToday

[Washin]

Washin
sat today

[JimH]

This is the fourth iteration of my post. I've already written and deleted three drafts. I can't get on a soapbox, and don't want to get into politics.....we all have views, and debating them is pretty much like pushing on a rope, in most cases.

However, I will say that I am greatly disappointed in the travel ban. As Americans, I'd say we are *all* descendants of immigrants, if you go back far enough. If people are fleeing oppression or danger in their home countries, and trying to make better lives for themselves and their families, we should welcome them. It should be an honor to us as a country that they see America as a safe haven; they aren't coming here to wage war or destroy our way of life.....they are coming here to avoid war and preserve life.

This ban is coming down hardest on not just immigrants, but *Muslim* immigrants. I find this disturbing, because in the Bible itself (Matthew ch. 25) you can find the following:

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?


40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

There is no mention of race, gender, or religion in this. Regardless of religion, we are all human. We are all family. We should be helping those in need, not turning them away.

Thank you, Jundo, for speaking up. I agree, and I will continue to do what I can locally, to try and promote understanding and compassion.

Gassho--

--JimH (SatToday!)

[Kokuu]

Thank you, Jundo. This needed saying.

Gassho
Kokuu
-sattoday-

[Matt]

Thank you for this, Jundo.
Gassho,
Matt
#SatToday