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Much of what I read in Zen seems focused on addressing our entire experience. Both in a manner of helping us see through our gained beliefs (what is good or bad, what is this or that etc.) and also at the same time helping us live our daily lives as beings surrounded by beings in a way that is conducive to the first way (The precepts, the 8 fold path etc.).
This is very confusing to read as unenlightened beings (maybe it's also confusing for enlightened beings but they're able to see through it?). Do A but also do B! A is A but also it's not really A!.
Much of what I read in Zen seems focused on addressing our entire experience. Both in a manner of helping us see through our gained beliefs (what is good or bad, what is this or that etc.) and also at the same time helping us live our daily lives as beings surrounded by beings in a way that is conducive to the first way (The precepts, the 8 fold path etc.).
This is very confusing to read as unenlightened beings (maybe it's also confusing for enlightened beings but they're able to see through it?). Do A but also do B! A is A but also it's not really A!.
All we can do is sit, sit and trust.
Gassho
Mark
ST
Just consider the fact that Enlightenment is never not ours. We are mostly blind to our enlightened nature, but that does not change the underlying truth. Beyond added emotional or moral values, every action, every decision and occurrence is completely and perfectly what it is, unchangeable, with nothing lacking and nothing to be added, stemming directly from buddha.
[emoji1374] SatToday
"Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi
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There is NO MISTAKE POSSIBLE in the universe, no place to fall, leaping through center vs. outside, no self to do the falling.
AND YET, AND YET, as Dogen said (sometimes misquoted by mistake) "the principle of the way [is that we must] make one mistake after another." He also said (if I am not mistaken), "Stepping forward is a mistake; stepping backward is also a mistake, taking one step is a mistake, taking two steps is also a mistake; therefore one mistake after another mistake."
Mistakes beyond mistakes, falling yet no place to fall, self and no, forward-and-back yet no forward or back. All reality and all sentient beings are ALREADY ENLIGHTENED being, already Buddha with no unenlightened action possible, no place to stumble, no greed or anger or division possible in such whole ...
... AND YET few of us are enlightened to such fact, and often, in our greed, anger and divided thinking, we forget to act in very enlightened ways as a Buddha might act.
Please make no mistake about this TRUTH!
Gassho, J
STLAH
Sorry to run long by mistake.
Hi Jundo,
This morning in the car I was thinking about a question my brother asked me a number of years ago. Do you want to be the sugar or taste the sugar? I think Dogen would say it's both. We are the sugar, enlightened beings, but with right effort we can taste the sugar as well.
This morning in the car I was thinking about a question my brother asked me a number of years ago. Do you want to be the sugar or taste the sugar? I think Dogen would say it's both. We are the sugar, enlightened beings, but with right effort we can taste the sugar as well.
Does get at the idea?
Gassho,
Hoseki
my apologies for the length.
While thinking about that, just don't crash into the car in front of you by mistake!
Yes, there is a certain Sweetness to the universe, even as the human tongue knows its very human sweet and oh so bitter!
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