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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40325

    #16
    Someone asked me if in my little essay I am telling folks not to study, not to read and learn from what the physicists and astronomers discover about things like time and the origins of the universe, and never to ponder the "Big Questions."

    NOT AT ALL!

    Recently, while sitting under the Milky Way and countless stars in a national park by night I also thought about such questions. Then, I sat Zazen among those stars, all separation and time dropped away.

    It is excellent and natural to ponder the "Big Questions" such as why are we here, what or who made the universe, what is "time" etc. As to study, it is just that when sitting Zazen, one puts down the books in the time of sitting. And in reading any books at other times, one learns not to be prisoner of spinning intellectual wheels. It is good, rewarding and (frankly) TOTALLY! to be encouraged (lest one falls into ignorance, so common now as in the past) to study history, science, economics, literature and art, society and many subjects. Of course, maybe after sitting, when we pick those books up again, we can have some clarity that also lets us see some Wisdom through the words on the pages (e.g., the wars and changes of human history seem very different to a student of Buddhism. Someone like Dogen had some insights on the fluidity and relativity of time, and existence in a truly vast universe-s, that the physicists seem only to have caught up to centuries later.)

    Although we might contemplate some "Big Questions," we Zen folks also know that the best answers to some of those questions may come from our dropping those questions, and the dichotomies and assumptions they entail, in the manner I describe in the essay. Yes, the physicists have certain truths to tell us, but perhaps we in turn have certain truths to convey even to the physicists and others, presenting certain answer that come when we radically rephrase or drop certain questions and ordinary perspectives altogether. Then, through our quiet sitting, asking "why we are here" and "who/what made the universe" and "what is time" may prove to have been in subtle ways our intellectually having asked the "wrong questions" in the wrong way, and the best and clearest answers may come from the silent Clarity and Timelessness we nurture in this Practice. Physicists may ask where the universe came from, the source of the Big Bang, and how long it all has been. This is important to know, and precious information. However, Zen folks savor how to jump right through all "coming and going," finding our source in this present moment, dropping all measures of time.

    Gassho, J

    STLah

    Last edited by Jundo; 07-09-2021, 02:30 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Tai Shi
      Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 3416

      #17
      A Picture of the Ocean

      “Two or three well placed encouraging sentences positioning so as to encourage Tai Shi, Begin with a Christian prayer, end with a Christian prayer. In between count your breath.” One last time. Be good to yourself and be good to others.
      Gassho
      sat/ lah
      Tai Shi


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      Last edited by Tai Shi; 07-09-2021, 01:57 AM.
      Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 40325

        #18
        Originally posted by Tai Shi
        So I will do sit zazen and Shikantaza, or.. then I treat others as I wish to be treated. ...
        That is enough real practice right there, nothing more needed!
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Suuko
          Member
          • May 2017
          • 405

          #19
          Beautiful write up emphasizing on both the importance of the practice and the importance of learning.

          Gassho,
          Sat today ,
          Lah,
          Guish.


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          • Timchenko_Oleg
            Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 56

            #20

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            • Tai Shi
              Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 3416

              #21
              Gassho1
              sat/ lah
              Tai Shi


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              Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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              • Kyōsen
                Member
                • Aug 2019
                • 311

                #22
                I've found it useful to use such words before, but I understand they were crutches.

                I like to use them when speaking to others who aren't especially familiar with these matters, even though I warn them these are conceptual crutches and not the truth of things.

                It's good to encourage us to let go of them; we can walk without our crutches just fine.

                Gassho
                Kyōsen
                Sat|LAH
                橋川
                kyō (bridge) | sen (river)

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                • Juki
                  Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 771

                  #23
                  That rock formation looks like two hands coming together in Shasho as the earth silently walks Kinhin through the universe.

                  Gassho,
                  Juki

                  sat today and lah
                  "First you have to give up." Tyler Durden

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                  • Tai Shi
                    Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 3416

                    #24
                    Jundo, you have given me great joy. Thank you for your words though I know these are words. For years, 39 June 12th, Marjorie has never said, “Love.” But to be love. For me I have hung on to Sobriety as my reward.
                    Gassho
                    sat/ lah
                    Tai Shi


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                    • Hokin
                      Member
                      • Oct 2019
                      • 191

                      #25
                      Simply beatiful, Jundo.
                      Thank you.

                      Gassho.
                      Hokin
                      SAT.
                      法 金
                      (Dharma)(Metal)
                      Wisdom Is Compassion & Compassion Is Wisdom.

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                      • Tai Shi
                        Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 3416

                        #26
                        A Picture of the Ocean

                        My joy in good friendship. I don’t have to tell her I love her. That’s not what she wants. Thank you Jundo.
                        Gassho
                        great bows
                        sat/ lah
                        Tai Shi


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                        Last edited by Tai Shi; 07-17-2021, 10:05 AM.
                        Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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