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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 39981

    What's the Point!

    Someone heard me say that we can practice in this life, living to be gentle and wise now, unconcerned about lives after this one. They wrote to ask me the point of practicing Zen without a "belief in rebirth ... If there is no rebirth, don't we all escape samsara when we die - whether we sit or not?"

    I answered: Who said that there is no rebirth?

    One is reborn as all this world, each baby and blade of grass, which are our 10,000 other faces (as much as your left eye is your right eye on the left!) Our good or harmful acts have consequences which impact the world, not only our own present life, but the lives of sentient beings near and far, rippling onward, endlessly through time.

    If YOU are mainly interested in what this practice can do for YOUR PERSONAL rebirth, then that would be a selfish attitude, plus hopeless from a Buddhist point of view, as there is no "YOUR PERSONAL" beyond the little self! In our Bodhisattva Vow, our practice is never for ourself alone, but for rescue of all sentient beings everywhere, now or then, here and far. In fact, YOUR fixation on YOUR desires for "YOUR PERSONAL" is the root of all Dukkha! Though some folks practice for what "I" can get out of it, there is no "I" nor "not I" which can be gotten! There is never an "our self," and all is our self, True Self, No Self which is All Selves.

    The Buddha's realization under the Bodhi Tree:
    "I and all beings together realize enlightenment." Above and Below , All are the Honored One Alone.

    In any case, lives or not after this one, live gently now for now is the pivot point: I do not know or much care about hells after death, for I see enough lost people create hells for themselves and those they touch in this life. Live gently now, and what comes will come.

    The person also asked, if we are already enlightened as some Zen folks claim, then why bother to sit? Buddha did not believe in intrinsic freedom, he believed in a path to liberation from samsara.

    I said: Yes, we believe this too. Better said, we believe both as true at once.

    We are already liberated, always were and always will be, but most sentient beings do not realize so. They bury this fact in greed, anger and the divided thinking of ignorance. Thus, we must walk the path to realize so, acting in peace and gentleness in every step, embodying the Buddhist way.

    If someone thinks, "I am already liberated, thus I don't need to do anything," then they do not understand. If someone thinks that liberation is lifetimes away, and not in this immediate thought, word and act right here and now, and what one chooses to do with it for good or bad, then they do not understand.

    One sits, as the Buddha chose to sit under the Tree. One sits as the morning star shining, nothing lacking nor anything to add to this shining light. Thus we sit Zazen, then getting up from the cushion, encounter endless times to put this Path into Practice in each moment.

    Someone else asked recently: "what to do when sitting seems pointless?"

    I advise: TRUST, with total unvoiced FAITH deep in the marrow of the bones, that THIS VERY SITTING is the fulfillment of anything and everything ever to be desired or had in life, the one place to be, the only act to do in all the universe in this very moment of sitting, with sitting the pinnacle of the mountain and the arrival at the goal in sitting itself, one's sitting sat as all Buddhas and Ancestors sitting with one's very ass! That should help.


    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Last edited by Jundo; 05-21-2021, 04:09 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • Kaisho
    Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 189

    #2
    Gassho

    Stlah
    Kaisho

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    • Horin
      Member
      • Dec 2017
      • 389

      #3
      Love this

      Gassho

      Horin

      Stlah

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      • Seikan
        Member
        • Apr 2020
        • 712

        #4
        Wonderful. Thank you Jundo.

        Gassho,
        Seikan

        -stlah-



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        聖簡 Seikan (Sacred Simplicity)

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        • Nengei
          Member
          • Dec 2016
          • 1697

          #5


          Gassho,
          Nengei
          Sat today. LAH.
          遜道念芸 Sondō Nengei (he/him)

          Please excuse any indication that I am trying to teach anything. I am a priest in training and have no qualifications or credentials to teach Zen practice or the Dharma.

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          • Kendrick
            Member
            • May 2019
            • 250

            #6


            Gassho
            Kendrick
            SAT/LAH

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            • Tairin
              Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 2789

              #7
              This is wonderful teaching. Thank you Jundo.


              Tairin
              Sat today and lah
              泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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              • Naiko
                Member
                • Aug 2019
                • 841

                #8
                Right to the pointless point! Thank you!
                Gassho,
                Naiko
                st

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                • Kenku
                  Member
                  • Mar 2020
                  • 124

                  #9
                  Yes.





                  Kenkū

                  sat/lah

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                  • Juki
                    Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 771

                    #10
                    Thank you for this teaching. It's something one can never hear often enough.

                    Gassho,
                    Juki

                    sat today and lah
                    "First you have to give up." Tyler Durden

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                    • Shokai
                      Treeleaf Priest
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 6392

                      #11
                      合掌,生開
                      gassho, Shokai

                      仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                      "Open to life in a benevolent way"

                      https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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                      • Seikai
                        Member
                        • Oct 2019
                        • 24

                        #12
                        Awesome!
                        Gassho
                        Thankyou.

                        St Lah

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                        • Kotei
                          Treeleaf Unsui
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 4079

                          #13
                          Thank you Jundo.

                          Gassho,
                          Kotei
                          sat today.
                          義道 冴庭 / Gidō Kotei.

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                          • Washin
                            Treeleaf Unsui
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 3768

                            #14


                            Gassho,
                            Washin
                            stlah
                            Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                            Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                            ----
                            I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                            and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                            • Anchi
                              Member
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 556

                              #15
                              Wonderful. Thank you Jundo.

                              Gassho
                              Life itself is the only teacher.
                              一 Joko Beck


                              STLah
                              安知 Anchi

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