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Jundo,
Glad to see they did take the spunk out of you alongside the tumor. Thank you for the talk and thank everyone else for the discussion it has spawned.
Like others I was apprehensive at first when researching you. But getting to know you through the videos has alleviated that.
Retreats are impractical for most lay practitioners and being able to become a zen priest should not be dependent on the genetic lottery ( location of birth, skin color, health issues, etc.). Suffering does not discriminate and the desire to end suffering is all that should matter.
Let them call us what they like, it is them who suffers when fighting changing times.
Jim
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Everyone here has said great things better than I can, but no-one has summed up my feelings better than Jishin. I'm not pissed off at these people though, only in as far as they are pissing you off Jundo, I've already said in a different thread that I couldn't care less about them and you shouldn't either. You have enough testimonials here to know that you have changed the lives of so many of us and not just us but countless people by encouraging us to go out into the world and try to do something for others, rather than sitting around on our bums talking about it. Not forgetting of course that we DO sit on our bums, quite a lot, in between times
The Dharma will always be the Dharma, but the world in which it is taught and learnt is changing fast. Looking at how the methods of transmitting it have changed in 2000 plus years, it's a little crazy to think that things will always stay as they are now because of a bunch of people want it that way.
As far as I'm concerned, Treeleaf is the shape of things to come, right out there in front and others are going to follow.
Great to see you so well Jundo, fighting fit almost! And I'm a little intrigued by your cuddly friend - he/she looks like a famous old beloved UK puppet character called Sweep but probably only I remember that.
Deepest of bows
Frankie
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I remember Sooty and Sweep. You are not alone!
S.
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Dear Jundo
It is so lovely to see you getting stronger and to join your Ango in your hospital bed.
I am grateful for all of your efforts on our behalf yet also feel that just being here and practicing is enough without it needing to be ratified by any external organisation. Undoubtedly you are looking further ahead to a time when Treeleaf priests may want to be involved in developing western Zen but I think this will happen anyway. At some point, the old guard will drop away and new folk will look at Treeleaf and realise what kind of a place it is, and what kind of practitioners it produces. At this point, and with the foundation of some newer online sanghas, they will come knocking at our door and ask us to be a part of things, asking us how we manage to engage in meaningful retreat as homeowners, teachers, parents, carers, disabled folk, shift workers and everything else in between. As the 21st century progresses, ignoring the fact that online sangha enables Zen to reach more and more genuine students and insisting that our way is not in line with traditions that have themselves been subject to change, gets ever harder.
We need to focus on being genuine at what we do and engaging with other sanghas, exchanging ideas and teachings, turning up at sesshins and behaving impeccably as students and guests, helping our communities and leaving a trail of flowers where we walk.
Sure a little push from time to time doesn't hurt but not even the gods can stop change from coming.
Anyway, I hope you ate your lunch. Roshis don't get well on an empty stomach!
Gassho
Kokuu
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Treeleaf has given me the teaching to live a whole new life. Even now, sitting here eating my butternut squash soup for supper, these simple but precious moments have become more alive, thanks to the teachings here. I've also overcome a lot of obstacles, and done things I probably never would have had the courage to do if it weren't for this place.
I agree with Jishin's pissed off two cents. Whether these guys like it or not, Treeleaf is here, and we will continue to practice and live as all of life as our temple.
Sometimes I've found Gandhi's quiet resistance is the only way to deal with such folks and their dogmatic views.
Gassho,
Joyo
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The reference to "BMW driving priest" may be a little inspired by this satire film, one of the funniest Japanese films made in the period, called "The Funeral" by the late Itami Jizo. Recommended to all. It makes fun of the whole funeral culture, including a priest who shows up in a Rolls Royce. Actually, it is just satire, and temples are being abandoned right and left because they have no economic basis as parishioners move away. Now, there is competition from priests dispatched from corporate funeral companies too. However, some temples can still be very lucrative if having a large and generous parishioner base.
Warning: Brief Nudity. Priest and Rolls appears about 25 seconds in.
Gassho, J
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But I am a ROSHI! I AM I AM I AM!!!
And that entitles me to wear a funny hat and, with $1, get a small coffee at Burger King.
Gassho, J
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But I am a ROSHI! I AM I AM I AM!!!
And that entitles me to wear a funny hat and, with $1, get a small coffee at Burger King.
Gassho, J
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I see my Monty Python reference may have missed its mark [emoji38]
Simon
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Thank you Jundo
Gassho Kyotai
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That's the Jundo I know! Welcome back. Dinner looked great (not).
Always good to sit with you teacher, learn from you, laugh with you, may it continue.
A Gassho with Joy
Doshin
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Thank you Jundo, well said.
ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
my study and practice with you and the sangha has been very meaningful for me : Ango, Jukai, receiving a Dharma name and most of all, applying the teachings in everyday life. What is offered here is as valuable and real as any Zen Monastery that I have been to.
Gassho,
Jyúkatsu
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Thanks, I like it when people speak their mind and are considered annoying by some other people. I have often experienced that that means that you should open your ears and shut down your prejudices because there might be something interesting going on.
Be well soon!
Gassho,
Stefan
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