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  • Kokuu
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Nov 2012
    • 6937

    On Tyranny and Not Doing Wrongs

    Dear all

    This morning I read 75% of the book On Tyranny by the historian Timothy Snyder which looks at historical precedents of authoritarian governments and what they teach us about the world today. It is only around 120 pages long and I highly recommend it.

    One passage struck me on page 38:

    When political leaders set a negative example, professional commitments to just practice become more important. It is hard to subvert a rule-of-law state without lawyers, or to hold show trials without judges. Authoritarians need obedient civil servants, and concentration camp directors seek businessmen interested in cheap labour.
    ‘Just practice’ here means honest or fair practice but clearly has a double meaning in reference to Zen.

    It reminds me of these words of Dogen from the Shoaku Makusa (Not Doing Wrongs) fascicle of Shobogenzo:

    [W]e hope not to commit wrongs, we continue enacting not to commit wrongs, and wrongs go on not being committed; in this situation the power of practice is instantly realised… For people of just this reality, at the moment of just this reality – even if they live at a place and come and go at a place where they could commit wrongs, even if they face circumstances in which they could commit wrongs, and even if they seem to mix with friends who do commit wrongs – wrongs can never be committed at all [when we hold to our practice].
    Or, as Uncle Brad Warner puts it in Don’t Be a Jerk:

    Even if you live in a place where you could act like a jerk, even if you face circumstances in which you could be a jerk, even if you hang out with nothing but a bunch of jerks, the power of not doing jerk-type things conquers all.
    I believe that the words in both On Tyranny and Not Doing Wrongs can be applied to political situations but also in all places and times that take on their own culture.

    If you are in situations when people are racist, homophobic or misogynistic, there is power in not following along.

    In a workplace where sloppiness is the norm, there is power is being diligent.

    In a society where greed and individualism is rampant, there is power in taking just what you need and looking out for your neighbours.

    In our relatively brief history of western Zen, there have also been instances of abuses of power by teachers. Although the responsibility for those wrongs ultimately lies with those teachers, I cannot help but think (whether fairly or unfairly) that often those abuses would not be allowed to happen without senior sangha turning a blind eye. I know that in several cases, the behaviour of the teacher was an open secret. By refusing to be complicit in those wrongs, perhaps entire wrongs can be prevented from being committed.

    The essential message is to hold to your practice and not to doubt that doing the right thing does has power and will resonate throughout the ten directions and three times like a bell being struck. That is not to say that standing up and standing out is always easy, but insisting on adhering to ethical rules and norms reminds others that they are there and that there is a choice.


    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday/lah-
  • Shinshi
    Senior Priest-in-Training
    • Jul 2010
    • 3787

    #2
    Thanks for this Kokuu. Very wise words.

    Just as an FYI, the book is available in the Internet Archive for free.



    Gassho, Shinshi

    SaT-LaH
    空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi

    For Zen students a weed is a treasure. With this attitude, whatever you do, life becomes an art.
    ​— Shunryu Suzuki

    E84I - JAJ

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 41030

      #3
      I agree. It is just a matter of where to draw the border of "Just Practice" oneself, "turn a blind eye" and "take action." In the case of the teachers who were sexually abusing students, like Joshu Sawaki and Eido Shimano, the attitude of many of the students was "Just Practice," which became "turn a blind eye" and make excuses for the teacher. It was a kind of group think and group pressure to be silent and conform. It took a long time for some of those students, and outsiders, to finally gather overwhelming evidence and take some action, even if it was never really enough (I was privileged to work with the late, great Rinzai Teacher, Kobutsu Malone, who founded the Sasaki and Shimano Archives to document these offenses. I contributed some translations from Japan on Sasaki's imprisonment for temple fund embezzlement there before they shipped him off to America in exile, for which I was partly blacklisted by some "old boy" western Zen teachers for breaching the "fraternity of silence." ... for example 707 and 708 here ...



      and


      I originally was asked to translate several old Japanese language news reports regarding a financial embezzlement scandal many years ago surrounding the "Zuiganji" Buddhist Temple in Japan involving the diversion of government and temple funds, and the resulting prosecution, conviction and imprisonment by the Japanese authorities of the REV. JOSHU SASAKI, a noted Zen Buddhist priest now living in North America. That request was made to me by the Rev. Kobutsu Malone, a Zen priest and editor of a web page known as the "Sasaki Archive" where witness statements and other documentation are collected concerning reports of alleged sexual harassment of students by Rev. Sasaki stretching over several decades.
      There is a time to just practice oneself, a time to speak up, and a time to (non-violently) act if one can where the lives and health of students and other abused beings are at stake Fortunately, students and others like Kobutsu finally acted.

      I fear that, in society, if lives are truly at stake, we may face similar choices on a larger scale.

      Gassho, Jundo
      stlah
      Last edited by Jundo; 02-09-2025, 02:15 AM.
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      • Hosai
        Member
        • Jun 2024
        • 669

        #4
        Originally posted by Kokuu
        [SIZE=12px]Dear all

        This morning I read 75% of the book On Tyranny by the historian Timothy Snyder which looks at historical precedents of authoritarian governments and what they teach us about the world today. It is only around 120 pages long and I highly recommend it.
        Definitely will be reading On Tyranny. I will add it to my list of books for when things go "pear-shaped". Thank you for that recommendation!

        The heading "Be calm when the unthinkable arrives" caught my attention.

        _/\_
        sat/ah
        hōsai
        防災 Hōsai - Dharma Gatherer

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        • Hosai
          Member
          • Jun 2024
          • 669

          #5
          Originally posted by Jundo
          I agree.


          There is a time to just practice oneself, a time to speak up, and a time to (non-violently) act if one can. if the lives and health of students and other abused beings are at stake Fortunately, students and others like Kobutsu finally acted.

          I fear that, in society, if lives are truly at stake, we may face similar choices on a larger scale.
          Sometimes it can be hard to know when is the right time to speak up... these things tend to be cultures that occur slowly over time. Kind of like the frog in the slowly boiling water analogy.

          Knowing when is the right time to expose unacceptable behaviour is tricky. Because at some point you're going to look like a jerk.

          But it's weird because some people have made the excuse that these abuses were actually skilful means and that the teachers were actually just waiting to be caught and be put in their place. So many said this about Trungpa.

          Some have suggested some the abuses of Eido Shimano we're actually him mirroring certain female students behaviour back to them as a way to teach and that the depth of the teacher student relationship transcended normal moral boundaries. There is also a weird sense that teachers take on some of the "karma" of the students that they teach... I have even heard that the student-teacher relationship is such that a teacher is willing to go to jail or have something equally bad happen if it means awakening a student...

          There is a teacher in my not too distant past who
          ​​​ actually changed the code of ethics because he thought that it was entirely likely that he may end up in a relationship with a student. (and he did briefly, it was age-appropriate and that person ceased to be their student the moment things became romantic)... But it helped that the teacher was very open about their possible weakness....

          And then there was the mini scandal at Zen Mountain Monastery that I won't get into cuz I kind of think it was a bit dramatic... I mean it was sad seeing a relationship broken up... these things seem to happen so often one might be forgiven to think that it was a necessary aspect of Zen training and monastic life...

          and while it is nice to think that there is some sort of relationship out there that knows no boundaries... no boundaries and non-dual intimacy is a scandal waiting to happen... that's why this online thing has a lot of promise... Jundo can't grope me from here...

          _/\_
          sat/ah
          hōsai
          Last edited by Hosai; 02-09-2025, 02:37 AM.
          防災 Hōsai - Dharma Gatherer

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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 41030

            #6
            and while it is nice to think that there is some sort of relationship out there that knows no boundaries... no boundaries and non-dual intimacy is a scandal waiting to happen... that's why this online thing has a lot of promise... Jundo can't grope me from here...
            Not funny.

            There also has to be some caution about lumping all these scandals into the same basket. They range from teachers who had simple love affairs with consenting adult students who do not appear to have been the victims of any kinds of psychological pressure (a violation of their marriage vows more than their priestly vows), to teachers who psychologically manipulated vulnerable and power-unequal students into a sexual relationship, to teacher who misappropriated money from the Sangha, teachers who behaved badly as part of an alcohol addiction when drunk (Maezumi), teachers who seem just to have assumed it was "okay" in the sexual freedom of the 1960s and 70s as newcomers to a foreign culture very different from Japan (Katagiri), to teachers who truly were predators such as Sasaki (who fondled female students for years and years in the Dokusan room, and also solicited oral sex and such, and students to sleep with him) and teachers who completely psychologically manipulated vulnerable female students, including true sexual assault in multiple cases (Shimano).

            Also, do not forget the HUNDREDS of other teachers who get no headlines because they do no harm, only much good. They are forgotten in this "if it bleeds it leads" society.

            The few truly bad apples do not spoil the whole bushel.

            There is a saying in the news business that "IF IT BLEEDS IT LEADS". An air crash or other tragedy captures the headlines and is endlessly examined by 24 hour news coverage, while the thousands ... hundreds of thousands ... of safe landings and uneventful flights that same day never make the news (Can you even imagine


            Gassho, J
            stlah
            Last edited by Jundo; 02-09-2025, 03:17 AM.
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            • Hosai
              Member
              • Jun 2024
              • 669

              #7
              Originally posted by Jundo

              Not funny.
              I'm actually sorry about that one...

              You clearly have a very good track record when it comes to calling out many zen scandals.

              ​​If I may rephrase. The online situation has a lot of promise when it comes to many of these issues for obvious reasons.

              That's not to say that all sorts of things are not being abused electronically in an online Sangha and that precepts cannot be violated on a forum such as this, but the potential for serious damage is much reduced.

              But it is possible for some Sanghas to be a little bit too pious... This whole thing with kicking Ryushin out of the ZMM abbacy for having a consenting relationship with someone who is not his wife... and for dabbling in Shamanism (which many Zennies are doing these days)...

              _/\_
              sat/ah
              hōsai
              Last edited by Hosai; 02-09-2025, 04:07 AM.
              防災 Hōsai - Dharma Gatherer

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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 41030

                #8
                That's not to say that all sorts of things are not being abused electronically in an online Sangha and that precepts cannot be violated on a forum such as this, but the potential for serious damage is much reduced.
                Oh, believe me, people can get very hurt ... including sexually abused ... online. We have to be on our toes here to make sure.

                (We are just updating and renewing our Ethics Standards and reconfirming membership on our Ethics Committee this week. Stay tuned for announcement soon.)

                Gassho, Jundo
                stlah
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Kokuu
                  Dharma Transmitted Priest
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 6937

                  #9
                  That's not to say that all sorts of things are not being abused electronically in an online Sangha and that precepts cannot be violated on a forum such as this, but the potential for serious damage is much reduced.
                  Sadly, as Jundo says, this is not always the case. Being online can sometimes make it easier for someone to pick out vulnerable people and abuse and manipulate them through direct messages without it ever being seen. The dangers can be different but we still need to be very alert.

                  Gassho
                  Kokuu
                  -sattoday/lah-

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