Shikantaza is ALWAYS Samadhi ...

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40361

    Shikantaza is ALWAYS Samadhi ...

    ... with or without Samadhi ...

    Someone asked recently, what is the relationship of Shikantaza Zazen and attaining Samadhi states?

    Shikantaza is a practice of Just Sitting, letting thoughts go without becoming tangled, in radical equanimity, allowing all as it is, with mind in "open awareness" or, as an alternative, following the breath (or similar variation, such as centering attention on posture). One sits with the attitude of nothing in need of attaining, no other place to be, nothing more to do, for all is complete just by sitting, Sitting for Sitting's sake, sitting as a sacred act, with the posture of sitting embodying a Buddha Sitting.

    Samadhi is a concentration state, often accompanied by a feeling of peace, wholeness, a softening of the hard borders of self/not self, life's frictions dropped away, timelessness and the like. Sometimes, Samadhi can be quite deep and profound, with a true quieting, even silencing of thought, and a complete drop of self/other division. Shikantaza often results in Samadhi of varying depths of concentration, even if such states are not sought.

    Paradoxically, in fact, the act of goalless sitting without seeking to experience Samadhi states, dropping goals in open awareness etc., may actually facilitate such attaining of Samadhi, even if that is not sought ... like finding gold right in hand precisely because one stops mining for gold.

    The trick is that Shikantaza may or may not result in Samadhi at various times, but Shikantaza is ALWAYS good Zazen, with or without Samadhi on a particular day, for there is no need or hunger to attain Samadhi or any other state. Some folks chase Samadhi, or feel that Zazen is only good and effective when Samadhi is attained. Soto Zen folks sitting Shikantaza also experience and learn from times of Samadhi, and we cherish such times, but we also wisely learn to put down all hunger and chasing, and thus we also learn that times without Samadhi are lovely too and to be cherished as well. In fact we might realize that all the world is always, already in perpetual Samadhi, whether or not we might feel so in a particular moment ...

    ... like knowing that the moon is always shining, seen or unseen, at times of clear skies or even on cloudy or stormy nights. We learn to know the moon that is the clouds AND the clear sky, and are not only seeking to have always clear skies. I hope that explains it a bit.

    This guy wrote a wonderful essay about it.



    Gassho, J

    stlah
    Last edited by Jundo; 03-28-2023, 06:10 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • Risho
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 3179

    #2


    Gassho

    Risho
    -stlah
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    • Tairin
      Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 2826

      #3


      Tairin
      Sat today and lah
      泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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      • Tai Shi
        Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 3417

        #4
        "True Samadhi is always there." I experience spasms, side kicked, hands tremor, sitting. Forces doctors can't explain; psychiatric drugs years. On high doses since 23, now 71, Tardive Dyskinesia; science caught up. now I sit, no track of time, sit 1/2 hr. bell. Kicking goes away when I write, not sitting.
        Gassho
        sat/lah
        Last edited by Tai Shi; 04-05-2023, 12:40 PM. Reason: concision
        Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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        • DGF
          Member
          • Feb 2022
          • 118

          #5

          Diana
          Satlah

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          • Chikyou
            Member
            • May 2022
            • 636

            #6


            Gassho,
            SatLah
            Kelly
            Chikyō 知鏡
            (KellyLM)

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            • Washin
              Treeleaf Unsui
              • Dec 2014
              • 3796

              #7


              Gassho,
              Washin
              stlah
              Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
              Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
              ----
              I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
              and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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              • Shinshi
                Treeleaf Unsui
                • Jul 2010
                • 3662

                #8
                Thank you Jundo.

                Gassho, Shinshi

                SaT-LaH
                空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi
                There are those who, attracted by grass, flowers, mountains, and waters, flow into the Buddha way.
                -Dogen
                E84I - JAJ

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                • Houzan
                  Member
                  • Dec 2022
                  • 517

                  #9
                  I read this again and again.
                  Thank you

                  Gassho, Hōzan
                  Satlah

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                  • Antonio
                    Member
                    • Mar 2024
                    • 139

                    #10
                    Thank you for the teaching sensei!

                    Gassho!
                    SatLah
                    Antonio

                    If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.” - Linji Yixuan​​

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                    • Antonio
                      Member
                      • Mar 2024
                      • 139

                      #11
                      By the way, sensei Jundo . Please, may you explain to me:

                      Sometimes, the zazen session passes very fast, like a blink. How do I know, if I experienced a samadhi or if I slept?

                      Gassho!
                      SatLah
                      Last edited by Antonio; 08-02-2024, 09:44 AM.
                      Antonio

                      If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.” - Linji Yixuan​​

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