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  • Frank
    Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 94

    O-Jutsu, Nenjutsu....prayer beads

    Was looking for guidance, thoughts on the use of O-Jutsu (prayer beads), in Soto Zen, and particularly in our practice and Sangha at Treeleaf.

    Although not used while "sitting", I have used them for sutra chanting, etc. I normally wear them on my left wrist as a constant reminder of my practice to me.

    Thoughts?

    Gassho

    Frank
  • Kaishin
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2322

    #2
    Hi Frank,

    We've had a few discussions about these in the past. Long story short, not really emphasized in our little corner of the world. But some people use them.

    There was a discussion awhile back about mala beads. Could someone help me find it? If not, I just wanted to post a question. I just bought some this afternoon. I know they are not something we specifically use here at Treeleaf, but can anyone tell me how they incorporate them into their practice. Gassho, Joyo


    I have a mala that my dad brought me from India, made of teak. I used it a lot when I began in Yoga, and I really enjoyed the practice of chanting out loud or silently with the beads. Now, since I have been focusing on Buddhism, my beads are neglected. I know that they are used in Buddhist practice, but I don't know how they


    Does anybody here ever use a mala? I never use one for Zazen, which i keep traditional, but I often do use one for a weird kind of metta practice. The mala is 108 beads, and as I sit on my Zafu, I hold the mala with my left hand and touch each bead in turn with my right thumb and forefinger, one bead per breath. Touching the




    I sat (Burmese, as usual) zazen with my sangha (http://clearwaterzencenter.org) Sunday; during the third round went and sat in daisan. When I arose, ; my "bad" knee went seriously bad, so I spent yesterday in a chair with my leg up on a pillow, or hobbling about on my cane. As I was convalescing, I took the


    -satToday
    Thanks,
    Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
    Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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    • Frank
      Member
      • Dec 2015
      • 94

      #3
      Thanks Kaishin.....I'll start reading what you sent.....GASSHO !

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 39967

        #4
        Hi Frank,

        Yes, whatever was said last time I guess, like here.

        There was a discussion awhile back about mala beads. Could someone help me find it? If not, I just wanted to post a question. I just bought some this afternoon. I know they are not something we specifically use here at Treeleaf, but can anyone tell me how they incorporate them into their practice. Gassho, Joyo


        Read the various meanings given to the number 108. Really neat.

        Thank you, Kaishin. Saved me a look for some of those threads (I did not realize there were that many). I hereby appoint you our Official Treeleaf Archivist! Congratulations.

        I was joking yesterday that, after 10 years of this place, about 1/3 of my advice to people these days is "cut and paste"

        Gassho, Jundo

        PS - What do we pay you as Official Treeleaf Archivist? Nothing as base as money, that is for sure ...

        Last edited by Jundo; 01-07-2016, 01:46 AM.
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Jakuden
          Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 6142

          #5
          Wow! Speaking of archiving, I feel like I'm dusting the mothballs off myself when I see how young Bill Murray is in that movie...

          Gassho
          Sierra
          SatToday

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          • Kaishin
            Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2322

            #6
            Originally posted by Jundo

            Thank you, Kaishin. Saved me a look for some of those threads (I did not realize there were that many). I hereby appoint you our Official Treeleaf Archivist! Congratulations.

            I was joking yesterday that, after 10 years of this place, about 1/3 of my advice to people these days is "cut and paste"

            Gassho, Jundo

            PS - What do we pay you as Official Treeleaf Archivist? Nothing as base as money, that is for sure ...
            Woohoo! So I got that going for me, which is nice

            -satToday
            Thanks,
            Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
            Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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            • CK732
              Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 252

              #7
              I love Bill Murray and I think that I may have lost my mind because this video was ROTFLOL funny!!

              Kaishin,

              It's a good thing that you have that going for you [emoji122]🏼

              Gassho

              Clarisse Sat2Day


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              • Kyonin
                Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
                • Oct 2010
                • 6745

                #8
                Caddyshack is so zen

                Gassho,

                Kyonin
                #SatToday
                Hondō Kyōnin
                奔道 協忍

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                • Getchi
                  Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 612

                  #9
                  Ah yes, wisest of all the Lama's. Hes got that going for him

                  I use mine to "count off" (not count) the number of times I "come back to myself" during a session. Apart from that, they look pretty and Ie got used to having them around


                  Gassho,
                  Geoff.

                  SatToday.
                  Nothing to do? Why not Sit?

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                  • Taikai
                    Member
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 73

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Getchi
                    Ah yes, wisest of all the Lama's. Hes got that going for him

                    I use mine to "count off" (not count) the number of times I "come back to myself" during a session. Apart from that, they look pretty and Ie got used to having them around


                    Gassho,
                    Geoff.

                    SatToday.
                    if I did that Geoff, I would need a string about ten feet long!

                    Gassho, Jennifer
                    sat today

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                    • Ishin
                      Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 1359

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kyonin
                      Caddyshack is so zen

                      Gassho,

                      Kyonin
                      #SatToday
                      "Be the ball Danny... BE the ball"

                      Gassho Ishin
                      Sat Today
                      Grateful for your practice

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                      • Kakunen

                        #12
                        O-Jutsu, Nenjutsu....prayer beads

                        In Japan Jyuzu is used at Jyodo-shu and Jyodo-shinshu.Our Sangha respect Shikantaza and Kesa,Rakusu and Igi ,sometimes Koan.


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                        • Jishin
                          Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 4821

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Konan
                          ...sometimes Koan.

                          Konan is a Koan without an N. What is Konan with an N?

                          Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

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                          • Nindo

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jundo
                            I was joking yesterday that, after 10 years of this place, about 1/3 of my advice to people these days is "cut and paste"
                            Only 1/3 ???

                            As for the mala, I wear mine around the neck to work, sometimes openly, sometimes hidden, to remind me of the rakusu which obviously I don't wear for work.

                            Gassho
                            Nindo

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                            • Kakunen

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jishin
                              Konan is a Koan without an N. What is Konan with an N?

                              Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_
                              Wow! Exactly!

                              In Japanese
                              Koan is 公案
                              Konan is 小南

                              Desu!


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