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  • Taikyo
    Friend of Treeleaf
    • Nov 2012
    • 363

    #16
    HI Jundo,
    You understand me completely and and you misunderstand me

    When I mentioned 'intensive retreats' what I actually said was
    This not to say the experience has not been invaluable to my practice they have, but been no more invaluable than last Saturdays Zazenkai with Treeleaf or your practice of sitting each day
    Now you only highlighted " ...no more invaluable than last Saturdays Zazenkai with Treeleaf or your practice of sitting each day" And if this is all I said then I would have been equating the two experiences in the way you suggest. But if you take the whole sentence you see what I what I meant was "both are as invaluable to my practice" There is a distinction I hope you agree!!

    So in your above post I agree with you & I agree with you

    Indeed when you say
    On the other hand, they are very different ... much as climbing Mt. Everest is not the same as climbing a step stool in one's kitchen. There is a time when long and hard Practice has it's place, beating the selfish "me myself and i" into submission. One sits hours upon hours precisely because the self does not want to do so ... one cleans endless temple toilets and sweats in the fields because the self would rather be sitting watching reruns on the sofa.
    It is much the same as I posted when I came back from Kanshoji, i.e:

    For me it was not about whether the schedule was hard or long or early or late. To be honest if you want a schedule that in extremis then one can enrol in a boot camp or military training or even prison. So I do not think for me, although the time was hard, my time was not about hardship. It was more an opportunity to understand my self in a certain way. It was a time of choice and choosing flight or fight. What I mean is this, when the schedule dictates then one has a choice: the mental dialogue is “ this is not for me”; “or this is rubbish”; “why should I have to do this – this is not Zen; “How can I get out of this” It is only in such situation when our freedom to act ‘autonomously’, so to speak, is limited that we notice this kind of inner dialogue. ... To let such a flow a movement teach you the practice of forgetting the self or dropping of the ego and expand and merge into the universal self. It is a constant choice of indulging the ego or letting go, and in such a practice the choice is thrown into stark relief; that is an awareness of prominence caused by contrast. So for me I did find freedom in the form; find an inner resource to accept and see ‘as it is’; dropping the mind and doing so be free.
    Deep Bows

    David

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    • Daitetsu
      Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 1154

      #17
      Originally posted by Jundo
      By the way, I asked Muho to lead a guest Zazenkai here and offer a little talk. He seemed open to it. I will use this thread as reason to contact him and ask if he is still willing.
      That's great!

      Thanks and Gassho,

      Timo
      no thing needs to be added

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      • Taigu
        Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
        • Aug 2008
        • 2710

        #18
        very strict

        simplicity


        ...


        T.

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        • Joyo

          #19
          Originally posted by Taigu
          One more thing: I come from the French countryside, the first time I visited Osaka in 2003 I told my wife: I cannot live here in this crowd and pollution without a tree to be seen...in 2006 I moved in Osaka and learned to practice with these towers of glass and steel as walking mountains and crowds as Bodhisattvas and Buddhas.

          You can do it!

          Gassho

          T.
          Taigu, thank you for this post. It has been very helpful to me.

          Gassho,
          Treena

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          • McGettigan
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 40

            #20
            Sam, you seem to have the impression there's something wrong with you.

            Is there actually something wrong with you? Or is there just dissonance between who you think you should be and how you actually feel? Maybe the dissonance, not you, is the problem.

            Gassho,

            Mc.

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40617

              #21
              Originally posted by McGettigan
              Sam, you seem to have the impression there's something wrong with you.

              Is there actually something wrong with you? Or is there just dissonance between who you think you should be and how you actually feel? Maybe the dissonance, not you, is the problem.

              Gassho,

              Mc.
              This is true. Not a thing to change or which can be changed.

              Nonetheless, one seeks to do better each moment, changing what needs to be changed forsaking greed anger and ignorance.

              Buddha seeking more and more each step to better embody Buddha. Such is not an either/or proposition!

              Saying “we are already Buddha” is not enough if we don’t realize that, act like so!

              Simple, exaggerated example …

              Perhaps a fellow sits down to Zazen for the first time who is a violent man, a thief and alcoholic. He hears that “all is Buddha just as it is“, so thinks that Zen practice means “all is a jewel just as it is, so thus maybe I can simply stay that way, just drink and beat my wife and rob strangers“. Well, no, because while a thief and wife-beater is just that … a thief and wife-beater, yet a Buddha nonetheless … still, someone filled with such anger and greed and empty holes to fill in their psyche is not really “at peace with how things are” (or he would not beat and steal and need to self-medicate). In other words, he takes and craves and acts out anger and frustration because he does not truly understand “peace with this life as it is” … because if he did, he would not need to be those violent, punishing ways.

              If the angry, violent fellow truly knew “completeness“, truly had “no hole in need of filling“, “nothing lacking” everything “complete just as it is” … well, he simply would not have need to do violence, steal and take drugs to cover his inner pain.

              You see … kind of a non-self-fulfilling Catch-22.

              Thus, our “goalless sitting” in Zazen is –not– merely sitting on our butts, self-satisfied, feeling that we “just have to sit here and we are Buddha“. Far from it. It is, instead, to-the-marrow dropping of all need and lack. That is very different. Someone’s “just sitting around” doing nothing, going no where, complacent or resigned, giving up, killing time, is not in any way the same as “Just Sitting” practice wherein nothing need be done, with no where that we can go or need go. For all is faced ‘head on’ and energetically as already whole and complete … even while we realize that the choices we make in life have consequences, that how we choose to walk the walk in this life, and the directions we choose to go, do make a difference!

              More here ...

              Sit-a-Long with Jundo: Zazen for Beginners (Part XIV)
              Gassho, J
              Last edited by Jundo; 11-07-2013, 02:45 AM.
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Ishin
                Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 1359

                #22
                Thank you all for this teaching

                Gassho C
                Grateful for your practice

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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 40617

                  #23
                  Rev. Mujo, the German born Abbot of Antaiji here in Japan, confirmed with me today that he will come to lead a Zazenkai and offer a talk. However, it will need to be sometime after Rohatsu Sesshin in December.

                  I look forward to welcoming him, and maybe he can talk about some of this.

                  Gassho, J
                  ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                  • Ishin
                    Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 1359

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jundo
                    Rev. Mujo, the German born Abbot of Antaiji here in Japan, confirmed with me today that he will come to lead a Zazenkai and offer a talk. However, it will need to be sometime after Rohatsu Sesshin in December.

                    I look forward to welcoming him, and maybe he can talk about some of this.

                    Gassho, J
                    Wonderful!
                    Grateful for your practice

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                    • Hans
                      Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1853

                      #25
                      Hello Jundo and fellow Treeleafers,

                      great to hear that Muho has agreed to do this!

                      Gassho,

                      Hans Chudo Mongen

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                      • Koshin
                        Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 938

                        #26
                        Great!! In the meantime, lets wait sitting in our butt

                        Thank you all for your teachings.


                        Gassho

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                        Thank you for your practice

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                        • Taikyo
                          Friend of Treeleaf
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 363

                          #27
                          Great news - thank you for your efforts again Jundo
                          Gassho

                          David

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                          • alan.r
                            Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 546

                            #28
                            Hi Sam,

                            I just want to add that we all do this. I do this kind of thing all the time. Envisioning some better/different/more pure life or whatever. And if there are people who tell you they don't do this, I'd say they're not being very honest. We do this countless times in countless different ways, every day. It's not just about wanting to sit in some great place to make us great practicers - we do this with the eggs we cook, with the jog we take, with the conversations with our spouse or friend or whatever. Annoyed at the way someone cuts us off, or doesn't hold the door open, or talks loudly on their phone in a public place, or whatever. You know? Or we want to be better at a thing and that begins to dominate, not actually getting better, but wanting to, wishing to be. It's catching our little want for things to be better or different that is the key, and just accepting that, well, maybe it'll happen and maybe not, but "wanting" won't help because that's just wishing for things to be different.

                            In any case, I just want to say not only that I sympathize, but that I empathize - I'm with you. I do this all the time. Maybe not in the exact same way, but I do it nonetheless, and things get a little better when I recognize I'm doing it, in sitting or in "life" or wherever, because then we see our junk for a minute, and we see that we're not our junk, and we're just right here (honestly, I hate to end this with a pat "right here" thing because so often I'm not, so often slipping up, messing up, distracted, pointedly distracting myself, dreaming some dream and not even realizing it, so I'll end it here).

                            gassho
                            Shōmon

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                            • Joyo

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Jundo
                              This is true. Not a thing to change or which can be changed.

                              Nonetheless, one seeks to do better each moment, changing what needs to be changed forsaking greed anger and ignorance.

                              Buddha seeking more and more each step to better embody Buddha. Such is not an either/or proposition!



                              Gassho, J
                              Thank you for posting this, Jundo.

                              Gassho,
                              Treena

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                              • sittingzen
                                Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 188

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jundo
                                Rev. Mujo, the German born Abbot of Antaiji here in Japan, confirmed with me today that he will come to lead a Zazenkai and offer a talk. However, it will need to be sometime after Rohatsu Sesshin in December.

                                I look forward to welcoming him, and maybe he can talk about some of this.

                                Gassho, J
                                Jundo for President 2016!!
                                Shinjin datsuraku, datsuraku shinjin..Body-mind drop off, mind-body drop off..

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