Changing experience of zazen

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  • Hokuu
    Member
    • Apr 2023
    • 180

    Changing experience of zazen

    Hi folks,
    I just wanted to share a few thoughts about how my zazen practice evolved over time. I will be using the "ocean and waves" metaphor; while I understand that it's not perfect, I don't have a better way to put the experience into words at the moment.

    Calm Ocean
    When I started practicing zazen regularly 2 years ago, I thought about zazen in terms of "sit long enough and the waves will subside". I expected the waves of anxiety, rage, and desperation to calm down and slowly disappear. I expected my mind to become calm and tranquil, much like an ocean without waves.

    Below the Waves
    Later, I realized the Calm Ocean option doesn't work as expected. I started practicing the "ocean below the waves" option. Seeing waves, I reminded myself there is a calm, unmovable ocean below them; there is some "self" under the surface, deep, deep under the surface. Waves come and waves go, but the ocean remains. Occasionally, contemplating the ocean behind led to moments of concentration where I felt detached from the world around me - I managed (and still can if I want and the circumstances are right) to "dive deep" without losing connection to reality. I still use this technique sometimes when I have hard calls at the job; it helps to respond from a perspective.

    Being and Non-Being a Wave
    Later again, I came to the conclusion that the Below the Waves option isn't zazen. It might be some useful concentration practice, but it's not Dogen's zazen.
    What I attempt to practice now is fully accepting the waves, accepting that the "self" is the wave, but at the same time it's much much more, it's the ocean, which in turns isn't my self, it just is. So there is a wave, and I know, I'm the wave, but also I know the wave will pass and there will be another one; moreover, there is an ocean, but the waves are the ocean and the ocean is the waves while still there are waves.
    Being a wave (and the ocean at the same time), but not being attached to the wave, letting it come and letting it go.

    Gassho
    satlah
    Hokuu
    歩空​ (Hokuu)
    歩 = Walk / 空 = Sky (or Emptiness)
    "Moving through life with the freedom of walking through open sky"
  • Houzan
    Member
    • Dec 2022
    • 695

    #2
    As reading the opening of Genjokoan

    Gassho, Hōzan
    satlah

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 43700

      #3
      Very nice, Hokuu. That's an image of Zazen I also express often.
      .

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      Gassho, J
      stlah
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • Shui_Di
        Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 354

        #4

        Very good sharing Hokuu, thanks for sharing this.

        Gassho, Mujo
        Sat
        Practicing the Way means letting all things be what they are in their Self-nature. - Master Dogen.

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        • benmason
          Member
          • Aug 2025
          • 5

          #5
          Hokuu,

          I like this description a lot. I especially like how you progressively discovered "not zazen". I'm still very new, but it seems to me that it is very difficult or even impossible for someone to say "this is zazen" with words, but maybe it is helpful to progress toward it by saying "okay, that was NOT zazen so I will keep looking". Only the experience can truly show the IS of it, I think.

          Gassho,
          Ben
          SatLAH

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