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  • Taigu
    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
    • Aug 2008
    • 2710

    Book of equanimity

    Hi everybody,

    I am going to ask all my students to take part to the bookclub on the book of equanimity. Shohei, Myozan, Myoku, Dokan, Jinyu should get a copy. Anybody else willing to interact and study with me is invited to show up, now. Dokusan will be based on this book and your understanding will be challenged! In the light of our last winter retreat i will raise my level of expectation, and won t let you get away with much. We will work on the resonnance of each koan in every day life and you will have to get it out of your guts ( not your head! ).

    I also expect you to dig the shobogenzo to find Dogen s take of these pearls.

    Dragons and elephants, you are now invited in!


    Gassho


    Taigu
  • Dokan
    Friend of Treeleaf
    • Dec 2010
    • 1222

    #2
    Re: Book of equanimity

    Gassho!

    Dokan

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    We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
    ~Anaïs Nin

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    • Shujin
      Treeleaf Unsui
      • Feb 2010
      • 977

      #3
      Re: Book of equanimity

      Book ordered.

      _/|_
      Kyōdō Shujin 教道 守仁

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      • Ryumon
        Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 1706

        #4
        Re: Book of equanimity

        Do you mean that we'll be tested? Eek! I haven't been tested on anything (other than life) in ages...

        I'm moving next Tuesday, but I already have the book, and am looking forward to taking part.
        ---
        Ryūmon (Kirk)
        流文

        SAT/LAH

        I know nothing.

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        • Jinyu
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 768

          #5
          Re: Book of equanimity

          OK, lets do that.
          Thank you for the Challenge! And lets the "wild surgery" of words begin! Mouahhahahha... :twisted:

          More seriously, I'll get it via amazon or something like that because the thing is not findable in bookshops here, but it shouldn't take too long! :wink:

          Have a very nice day everyone!
          deep gassho,
          Jinyu
          Jinyu aka Luis aka Silly guy from Brussels

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          • Ryumon
            Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 1706

            #6
            Re: Book of equanimity

            Jinyu,

            I got mine from Book Depository (http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/). (No affiliation, just a satisfied customer.) They have free shipping around the world, and their prices are often lower than Amazon FR. (I'm in France.)
            ---
            Ryūmon (Kirk)
            流文

            SAT/LAH

            I know nothing.

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            • Kaishin
              Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2322

              #7
              Re: Book of equanimity

              Originally posted by Taigu
              Anybody else willing to interact and study with me is invited to show up, now.

              Willing. Scared... but willing :wink:

              Will order the book shortly.
              Thanks,
              Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
              Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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              • Jiken
                Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 753

                #8
                Re: Book of equanimity

                Got the book on Kindle. Ready to go

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                • andyZ
                  Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 303

                  #9
                  Re: Book of equanimity

                  I was going to ask in another thread what is the use of just reading and discussing a koan?…Thank you Taigu for telling us that it's not going to be just a discussion. I heard that sometimes it takes years for a student to crack a koan. Got my book in the mail today. This one has 100 of them
                  Gassho,
                  Andy

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                  • Kaishin
                    Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2322

                    #10
                    Re: Book of equanimity

                    Originally posted by andyZ
                    what is the use of just reading and discussing a koan?…
                    Isn't that more the Soto style though? Not screaming MUUUUUUUUUUUUUU at your sensei, but rather feeling how it pervades everyday life, which might arise from discussions. I don't know.
                    Thanks,
                    Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                    Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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                    • andyZ
                      Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 303

                      #11
                      Re: Book of equanimity

                      Originally posted by Matto
                      but rather feeling how it pervades everyday life, which might arise from discussions. I don't know.
                      Matto,
                      That's exactly my point and that's what Taigu said in his post.
                      Gassho,
                      Andy

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                      • Kaishin
                        Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 2322

                        #12
                        Re: Book of equanimity

                        Originally posted by andyZ
                        Originally posted by Matto
                        but rather feeling how it pervades everyday life, which might arise from discussions. I don't know.
                        Matto,
                        That's exactly my point and that's what Taigu said in his post.
                        My understanding was that Soto doesn't have the "sanzen" style where a student presents his koan understanding to the roshi. Rather, koans are discussed more informally, incorporated into dharma talks, etc. I guess I thought when you said "what's the point of just discussing," my reaction was "isn't that the Soto way?" Seemed like Taigu's invitation for "sanzen" was more of a Rinzai style. Sorry maybe this makes even less sense :P
                        Thanks,
                        Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                        Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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                        • Dokan
                          Friend of Treeleaf
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1222

                          #13
                          Re: Book of equanimity

                          Originally posted by Matto
                          Seemed like Taigu's invitation for "sanzen" was more of a Rinzai style. Sorry maybe this makes even less sense :P
                          Heh! Seems to me like maybe it's being over analysed. I'm fairly certain that Taigu will use the material to see how we apply these koans to our lives. Not as qualification of our intellectual understanding, but as an application rather. I don't believe it's the same as the formal ladder-type system found in Rinzai. But of course I defer to Taigu.

                          Gassho,

                          Dokan
                          We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
                          ~Anaïs Nin

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                          • RichardH
                            Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 2800

                            #14
                            Re: Book of equanimity

                            Sounds good.

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                            • Kaishin
                              Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 2322

                              #15
                              Re: Book of equanimity

                              Originally posted by Dokan
                              Originally posted by Matto
                              Seemed like Taigu's invitation for "sanzen" was more of a Rinzai style. Sorry maybe this makes even less sense :P
                              Heh! Seems to me like maybe it's being over analysed. I'm fairly certain that Taigu will use the material to see how we apply these koans to our lives. Not as qualification of our intellectual understanding, but as an application rather. I don't believe it's the same as the formal ladder-type system found in Rinzai. But of course I defer to Taigu.

                              Gassho,

                              Dokan
                              Ah, that makes more sense, yes.

                              Edit: From the book's introduction:

                              This collection of koans is highly revered in the Soto School although they are not approached in the same way as koans are in the Rinzai School, which requires face-to-face presentation with one's teacher. In the Soto School, the koans are approached more as liturgy to be stuided and discussed.
                              Thanks,
                              Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                              Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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