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  • Taigu
    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
    • Aug 2008
    • 2710

    Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

    Hi everybody,

    Here is an excellent article about Kinhin from Issho Fujita, very short and well worth reading:

    http://www.meditationpathways.com/kinhin.htm

    gassho

    Taigu
  • Tb
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 3186

    #2
    Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

    Hi.

    Good read.
    Thank you.

    Mtfbwy
    Fugen
    Life is our temple and its all good practice
    Blog: http://fugenblog.blogspot.com/

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    • anista
      Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 262

      #3
      Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

      Thank you for the article, Taigu. Most interesting to read.

      I thought about the following quote from the article:

      People who practice this [kinhin], believe that the Buddha walked this way. In some of the scriptures there's a description of the Buddha walking slowly, and mindfully, in the woods after sitting.
      (My italics)

      Do you (or anybody else for that matter) know in which scriptures this is mentioned? Would be cool to check it out!

      Anyway, it's a good read. I especially liked the following;

      We cannot sit forever. It's a bridge between sitting still, and moving in daily activity, and helps bring meditation into everyday life.
      The mind does not know itself; the mind does not see itself
      The mind that fabricates perceptions is false; the mind without perceptions is nirv??a

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      • Rich
        Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 2603

        #4
        Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

        Originally posted by anista
        Thank you for the article, Taigu. Most interesting to read.


        Do you (or anybody else for that matter) know in which scriptures this is mentioned? Would be cool to check it out!
        In Old Path White Clouds by Thich Nhat Hanh which is based on the Pali Nikayas and Chinese Agamas, walking meditation is mentioned many times and using the appendix you can identify the sutras that each chapter is based on. In Buddhas day they walked a lot - when traveling, begging and meditating. The first chapter is titled 'Walking just to Walk' and I quote for example 'They walked with quiet dignity, observing each breath and each step'.

        /Rich
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        Rich
        MUHYO
        無 (MU, Emptiness) and 氷 (HYO, Ice) ... Emptiness Ice ...

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        • KellyRok
          Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 1374

          #5
          Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

          hello all,

          Thank you for this Taigu. I do alot of kinhin due to my back issues...wonderful!

          Gassho,
          Kelly - Jinmei

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          • Hogo
            Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 497

            #6
            Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

            Thank you Taigu. That along with your recent video was very helpful.

            Gassho ~ Dave.

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            • anista
              Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 262

              #7
              Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

              Originally posted by Rich
              Originally posted by anista
              Thank you for the article, Taigu. Most interesting to read.


              Do you (or anybody else for that matter) know in which scriptures this is mentioned? Would be cool to check it out!
              In Old Path White Clouds by Thich Nhat Hanh which is based on the Pali Nikayas and Chinese Agamas, walking meditation is mentioned many times and using the appendix you can identify the sutras that each chapter is based on. In Buddhas day they walked a lot - when traveling, begging and meditating. The first chapter is titled 'Walking just to Walk' and I quote for example 'They walked with quiet dignity, observing each breath and each step'.

              /Rich
              Thanks Rich, I'll check it out!
              The mind does not know itself; the mind does not see itself
              The mind that fabricates perceptions is false; the mind without perceptions is nirv??a

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              • ChrisA
                Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 312

                #8
                Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

                Originally posted by Taigu
                Hi everybody,

                Here is an excellent article about Kinhin from Issho Fujita, very short and well worth reading:

                http://www.meditationpathways.com/kinhin.htm

                gassho

                Taigu
                Does anyone have a working link to this? Or a pdf?
                Chris Seishi Amirault
                (ZenPedestrian)

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                • Hoyu
                  Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2020

                  #9
                  Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

                  Originally posted by ChrisA
                  Originally posted by Taigu
                  Hi everybody,

                  Here is an excellent article about Kinhin from Issho Fujita, very short and well worth reading:

                  http://www.meditationpathways.com/kinhin.htm

                  gassho

                  Taigu
                  Does anyone have a working link to this? Or a pdf?
                  I couldn't access it either?
                  Ho (Dharma)
                  Yu (Hot Water)

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                  • Taigu
                    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2710

                    #10
                    Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

                    Sorry,

                    I did try to find it again but could not...fleeting, coming and going. Internet is like everything elese.

                    gassho


                    Taigu

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                    • Kyonin
                      Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 6742

                      #11
                      Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

                      Doh! I got late to read it. They took it down.

                      Oh well... impermanence...
                      Hondō Kyōnin
                      奔道 協忍

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                      • Fuken
                        Member
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 435

                        #12
                        Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

                        I think this is from the same article: http://myoanflute.blogspot.com/2010/01/kinhin.html
                        Yours in practice,
                        Jordan ("Fu Ken" translates to "Wind Sword", Dharma name givin to me by Jundo, I am so glad he did not name me Wind bag.)

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                        • andyZ
                          Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 303

                          #13
                          Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

                          Originally posted by Fuken
                          I think this is from the same article: http://myoanflute.blogspot.com/2010/01/kinhin.html
                          Thank you for the link.
                          Gassho,
                          Andy

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                          • Fuken
                            Member
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 435

                            #14
                            Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

                            I'm grateful to Jef Jones, the curator of that blog, not only for preserving the article on kinhin, but the vast archive of shakuhachi material he has collected there as well.
                            Yours in practice,
                            Jordan ("Fu Ken" translates to "Wind Sword", Dharma name givin to me by Jundo, I am so glad he did not name me Wind bag.)

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                            • Hoyu
                              Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 2020

                              #15
                              Re: Kinhin in Dogen's teaching

                              Originally posted by Fuken
                              I think this is from the same article: http://myoanflute.blogspot.com/2010/01/kinhin.html
                              Thanks! Great article

                              We sit for fifty minutes, then do Kinhin for ten minutes-sitting walking, sitting.
                              Wow! The longest for me were the 40 minute sits at a Zendo in California.

                              Gassho,
                              John
                              Ho (Dharma)
                              Yu (Hot Water)

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