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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 39065

    Monthly Zazenkai Today

    Hi,

    No time for a long post. Just a reminder that our 4 hour monthly Zazenkai is today

    viewtopic.php?f=1&t=668

    Be there or ... be ... square ...

    Gassho, J
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • kudra
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 22

    #2
    Re: Monthly Zazenkai Today

    OMG I'm late!

    jenna

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    • Andrei
      Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 31

      #3
      Re: Monthly Zazenkai Today

      Pedantic question/observation:

      In the Heart Sutra, where you have "O Shariputra," the Sanskrit has it as "Iha Shariputra," which as I understand means "Here, Shariputra." So "Here, Shariputra, form is emptiness and emptiness is form." Of course, this does not mean the statement is not universally applicable, but I've always liked that "here"--it kind of brings it home, resonates with suchness, so to speak. Is there no "here" in Chinese/Japanese? ("No here here," as Gertrude Stein might say...)

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 39065

        #4
        Re: Monthly Zazenkai Today

        Originally posted by Andrei
        Pedantic question/observation:

        In the Heart Sutra, where you have "O Shariputra," the Sanskrit has it as "Iha Shariputra," which as I understand means "Here, Shariputra." So "Here, Shariputra, form is emptiness and emptiness is form." Of course, this does not mean the statement is not universally applicable, but I've always liked that "here"--it kind of brings it home, resonates with suchness, so to speak. Is there no "here" in Chinese/Japanese? ("No here here," as Gertrude Stein might say...)
        Hi Andrei,

        Red Pine, who is a respected Heart Sutra translator, calls the "Iha" "the master's shout, a poke in the ribs, a cup of tea". The Chinese/Japanese at that point in the text is ...



        which is ...

        SHA Sha
        RI ri
        SHI putra
        SHIKI form
        FU not
        I different
        KÛ emptiness
        KÛ emptiness


        As you can see, classical Chinese and Japanese have a quality of "short hand", leaving out extra elements. So, a sentence like "Bob goes to the bus" is sometimes rendered as "Bob goes bus". In spoken Chinese and Japanese, there are ways to do that. But the written form is pretty spartan.

        But is it so vital? Like "Oh" in English, such as ...

        Oh Susana, oh don't you cry for me

        Is it "my gosh": versus "oh my gosh"??

        'my my" versus "oh my"?

        Oh, I don't know!

        Gassho, Jundo
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Eika
          Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 806

          #5
          Re: Monthly Zazenkai Today

          Apologies, but I won't make the zazenkai today. My wife has to work so I'm watching the 3 little ones.

          --Bill
          [size=150:m8cet5u6]??[/size:m8cet5u6] We are involved in a life that passes understanding and our highest business is our daily life---John Cage

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          • Tb
            Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 3186

            #6
            Re: Monthly Zazenkai Today

            Hi.
            You can do as we do, we both work at the time of the "monthly zazenkai" so we sit in on it later, knowing it is not later and that you're all with us.
            And sometimes we have to do it separately,knowing it is at the same time, doing it together with everybody else...

            Mtfbwy
            Fugen
            Life is our temple and its all good practice
            Blog: http://fugenblog.blogspot.com/

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            • Shohei
              Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 2854

              #7
              Re: Monthly Zazenkai Today

              I sat with from home with you all today. I often sit at night but decided to go for it. Being the only chanting voice out loud can be funny. My new neighbors across the street were impressed. Nice day outside today so all the windows and doors were flung wide open - from -20s and -30c to todays balmy -1. Chickadees, a chainsaw and crows gave the dharma talk- Im glad i got up to do it (running on 2.5 hours of sleep) with you all!

              Gassho, Shohei -working with the the 56k dialup koan

              PS Our (New Brunswick) provincial Government announced that by 2010 the province would be covered head to toe in high speed internet access. Currently 90% of the population as access. So in the very near future i will be able to join you with a digital representation!

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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 39065

                #8
                Re: Monthly Zazenkai Today

                Hi Guys,

                I was dancing today's Zazenkai dance with a bit of cold medicine in me ... pardon if the Dharma talk was a little fuzzy, and the Zazen sometimes a bit wobbly.

                Remember: We sit Zazen with what is, and there is never ever any "bad" Zazen ... even the bad Zazen.

                Gassho, Jun ..... achoo
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Dojin
                  Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 562

                  #9
                  Re: Monthly Zazenkai Today

                  feel better jundo

                  get well soon.

                  take care, Dojin.
                  I gained nothing at all from supreme enlightenment, and for that very reason it is called supreme enlightenment
                  - the Buddha

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                  • Shindo
                    Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 278

                    #10
                    Re: Monthly Zazenkai Today

                    Thanks as always Jundo - I intend to do this next Sunday morning.
                    Kind regards
                    Shindo
                    [color=#404040:301177ix]"[i:301177ix]I come to realize that mind is no other than mountains and rivers and the great wide earth, the sun and the moon and star[/i:301177ix]s". - [b:301177ix]Dogen[/b:301177ix][/color:301177ix]

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