Confused, where are the 'talks'?

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  • disastermouse

    Confused, where are the 'talks'?

    When I go to the blogspace for 'Dharma talks', I see videos that don't really have dharma talks in them. The have a (very) small ceremony or conversation followed by a baffling 20 or so minutes of video'd sitting.

    Where is the actual dharma talk?
  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 39471

    #2
    Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

    Here. Look closely, because it is in 3-D ...

    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Fuken
      Member
      • Sep 2006
      • 435

      #3
      Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

      :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
      Yours in practice,
      Jordan ("Fu Ken" translates to "Wind Sword", Dharma name givin to me by Jundo, I am so glad he did not name me Wind bag.)

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      • disastermouse

        #4
        Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

        So is that to say there are no 'talks'?

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        • Fuken
          Member
          • Sep 2006
          • 435

          #5
          Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

          I would say those short conversations make up most of the "talks" at Treeleaf.
          I would also posit that the part of Treeleaf that is most wonderful is right here in this forum, and the community that has grown around it.
          Also if you are interested and have skype, I am sure Jundo would be happy to give you a direct talk one on one.

          Sorry my original post was not as helpful.

          Gassho,
          Jordan
          Yours in practice,
          Jordan ("Fu Ken" translates to "Wind Sword", Dharma name givin to me by Jundo, I am so glad he did not name me Wind bag.)

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          • cdshrack
            Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 50

            #6
            Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

            more dharma, less talk.

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            • disastermouse

              #7
              Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

              Originally posted by cdshrack
              more dharma, less talk.
              Wow, that was insightful. /sarcasm

              "You have to say something." - Dainin Katagiri

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              • Longdog
                Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 448

                #8
                Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

                Hi Disastermouse,

                I find the 5 minute talks have been and are very useful. 5 minutes every day is great, Jundo has some great insights is pretty concise, has some amusing ways of explaining things too. Hey, it's 35min a week, 2hrs + a month, and it's free

                Seriously, if you check back and go through a series of talks say the ones on the genjo koan, I'm sure you'll see they may be only 5 minutes but a worth while 5 minutes.

                In gassho, Kev
                [url:x8wstd0h]http://moder-dye.blogspot.com/[/url:x8wstd0h]

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                • disastermouse

                  #9
                  Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

                  Originally posted by Longdog
                  Hi Disastermouse,

                  I find the 5 minute talks have been and are very useful. 5 minutes every day is great, Jundo has some great insights is pretty concise, has some amusing ways of explaining things too. Hey, it's 35min a week, 2hrs + a month, and it's free

                  Seriously, if you check back and go through a series of talks say the ones on the genjo koan, I'm sure you'll see they may be only 5 minutes but a worth while 5 minutes.

                  In gassho, Kev
                  I didn't want to give anyone the impression that I didn't think the sit-alongs were worthwhile.

                  I frequently listen to the mp3 talks by Buddhist teachers and had thought that Jundo had some of those. I wanted to make sure I wasn't just missing some obvious link on the pages or something.

                  Also, the Zen timers are a brilliant idea.

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                  • chicanobudista
                    Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 864

                    #10
                    Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

                    Originally posted by disastermouse
                    "You have to say something." - Dainin Katagiri
                    Something. :mrgreen:
                    paz,
                    Erik


                    Flor de Nopal Sangha

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                    • Tb
                      Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3186

                      #11
                      Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

                      Originally posted by disastermouse
                      Originally posted by cdshrack
                      more dharma, less talk.
                      Wow, that was insightful. /sarcasm

                      "You have to say something." - Dainin Katagiri
                      Hi.
                      ever heard of "the talking silence"?

                      May the force be with you
                      Tb
                      Life is our temple and its all good practice
                      Blog: http://fugenblog.blogspot.com/

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                      • Marina S
                        Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 17

                        #12
                        Re: Confused, where are the 'talks'?

                        Disastermouse,
                        I gather that you're referring to mp3 type dharma talks? There's a plethora of those available at dharma seed. Very informative ones. I have downloaded a few and listen to them once in a while, but at least for me, nothing beats sitting. Sometimes dharma talks can end up replacing meditation practice. Nice to talk about aspects of meditation practice, but it's not the same as doing it. I have a sneaking suspicion that many people have the good intention of practicing on a regular basis, and instead use diversions such as reading about it, going on retreat (as a way to get back into the practice) and listening to long dharma talks by charismatic teachers. These things have their place; however, they aren't the real thing, and they certainly don't replace meditation practice itself. A while back I came across some information stating that, on average, the majority of the people who attended retreats didn't practice on a regular basis. Apparently, they decided to go on retreats in the hopes of re-igniting their practice.

                        What I like about the way things are set up at Treeleaf, is that Jundo has a gift for communicating lived experience and insight in a concise manner. I don't think he's here just to amuse or entertain us (well, okay, the interview with the Xmas tree, etc. are the exception). During a few of the sessions he hasn't even talked. I must admit that at first I was disappointed. This became a good learning experience for me.

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