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  • Kaitan
    Member
    • Mar 2023
    • 550

    Reciting Meal Gatha in front of others

    I would like to commit to recite the Meal Gatha, during Ango, but I don't know how to approach it in front of my family and friends. I don't feel comfortable, I would like to hear some experiences from fellow Sangha members.

    Gasshō

    stlah, Kaitan
    Kaitan - 界探 - Realm searcher
  • Kokuu
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Nov 2012
    • 6850

    #2
    Hi Kaitan

    I often recite it in my head when I am around others.

    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday/lah-

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    • Tairin
      Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 2837

      #3
      Originally posted by Kokuu
      Hi Kaitan

      I often recite it in my head when I am around others.

      Gassho
      Kokuu
      -sattoday/lah-
      Same here. No one has ever asked but if they did I’d simply say I was taking a moment to appreciate the meal before me.


      Tairin
      Sat today and lah
      泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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      • Bion
        Senior Priest-in-Training
        • Aug 2020
        • 4712

        #4
        I just put my hands in gassho, recite it in my head and carry on. Dit it today as I had lunch in a restaurant, did it yesterday as I had lunch with a friend... Folks do weird stuff all the time and I don´t ask them why, so sometimes, my business is not their business

        Gassho
        sat and lah
        "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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        • Koushi
          Senior Priest-in-Training / Engineer
          • Apr 2015
          • 1351

          #5
          I also normally bow my head and recite it to myself. Then again, if I’m at an event or around family and there’s a Christian prayer, I’ll also bow my head.

          When in Rome, as they say.

          Gassho,
          Koushi
          ST
          理道弘志 | Ridō Koushi

          Please take this priest-in-training's words with a grain of salt.

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          • Matt Johnson
            Member
            • Jun 2024
            • 423

            #6
            I sometimes Gassho, and sometimes when I was with friends I just did it with a feeling of tongue in cheek. Many of them have practised yoga so a Gassho is not so out of place but it sometimes gets smiles and eye rolls. My family got into it for a short period of time. Now it seems to have devolved into a pause most of the time just before I eat the first bite.

            _/\_
            sat/ah
            matt

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40539

              #7
              Originally posted by Kaitan
              I would like to commit to recite the Meal Gatha, during Ango, but I don't know how to approach it in front of my family and friends. I don't feel comfortable, I would like to hear some experiences from fellow Sangha members.

              Gasshō

              stlah, Kaitan
              Well, if folks in the other religion say Grace to Jesus, it does not bother me. I just listen and, in my head, add "and ditto, Buddha."

              If it is in a place where religion of any kind ... ours or others ... would make someone else uncomfortable, I think it fine to say it silently, within, as others above have suggested. Even just a single Gassho to one's meal before eating is often enough, and might be felt to embody all the Gathas and Sutras within it. Even both Gassho and words in one's heart can be enough if sincere.

              Gassho, Jundo
              stlah
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Kaitan
                Member
                • Mar 2023
                • 550

                #8
                Thank you, all, for the responses! Very helpful advices

                Gasshō

                stlah, Kaitan
                Kaitan - 界探 - Realm searcher

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                • Chikyou
                  Member
                  • May 2022
                  • 659

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kaitan
                  I would like to commit to recite the Meal Gatha, during Ango, but I don't know how to approach it in front of my family and friends. I don't feel comfortable, I would like to hear some experiences from fellow Sangha members.

                  Gasshō

                  stlah, Kaitan
                  Hi Kaitan,

                  So I recite the meal Gatha, in gassho, wherever I am. I recite it in my head/under my breath and I usually eat alone, others in the cafeteria either don't notice or don't care. It's not a big deal. I don't make a spectacle of myself with it of course.

                  If I'm really self conscious (it's in a super crowded setting for example) or I'm short on time or space (like when I'm eating in the front seat of my car ) I say the much shorter "itadakimasu" which means largely the same thing.

                  Gassho,
                  SatLah
                  Chikyō
                  Chikyō 知鏡
                  (KellyLM)

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                  • Antonio
                    Member
                    • Mar 2024
                    • 156

                    #10
                    It is question of habit. I do this everywhere (Always in gassho, but in silent in public). In the beginning you can feel weird but after you will get used.

                    Gassho,
                    SatLah
                    Antonio

                    If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.” - Linji Yixuan​​

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                    • Matt Johnson
                      Member
                      • Jun 2024
                      • 423

                      #11
                      Closeted Buddhists?

                      _/\_
                      sat/ah
                      matt

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                      • Kaitan
                        Member
                        • Mar 2023
                        • 550

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chikyou
                        I say the much shorter "itadakimasu" which means largely the same thing.
                        This looks neat!, thank you, Chikyou



                        stlah, Kaitan
                        Kaitan - 界探 - Realm searcher

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                        • Jundo
                          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 40539

                          #13
                          "itadakimasu"
                          Just a note that "itadakimasu" is just a regular, daily Japanese term, not particularly Buddhist in origin but very nice, used by everyone here from children to grandma for almost every meal, which simply means "I humbly receive (this meal)" before digging in.

                          It is a lovely expression and, if in your heart it contains all the Gatha, then it does.

                          An English "thank you" or Spanish "gracias" can be the same too.

                          Gassho, J
                          stlah
                          ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                          • Ekai
                            Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 672

                            #14
                            I say it silent around others especially my teenage son. You know.. the eye roll…

                            Gassho,
                            Ekai

                            sat

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                            • Tai Do
                              Member
                              • Jan 2019
                              • 1456

                              #15
                              I recite in English while I'm alone or with my wife. When we are with the children, we let them create a gatha on the spot (they almost always end up thanking the son, the Earth, the animals and people for the meal). When I'm outside , I recite in my mind.
                              Gassho,
                              Tai Do
                              Satlah
                              怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
                              (also known as Mateus )

                              禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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