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  • Shigeru
    Member
    • Feb 2024
    • 31

    My deepest gratitude to Jundo for these talks. I keep returning to the symbolism of the hand of thought whenever I find myself caught up in grasping too much at the clouds of my mind, both on and off the cushion. Powerful meaning in simple packaging

    Gassho
    Will
    SatLah
    Last edited by Shigeru; 03-29-2024, 11:56 PM.
    - Will

    Respecting others is my only duty - Ryokan

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    • nima
      Member
      • Mar 2024
      • 4

      Many thanks or the clear videos for beginners. In many Zen schools Koans are also used for students. Does this method use in Treeleaf too? may be for non-beginners?

      Gassho,
      Nima

      Sat/Lah

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 39037

        Originally posted by nima
        Many thanks or the clear videos for beginners. In many Zen schools Koans are also used for students. Does this method use in Treeleaf too? may be for non-beginners?

        Gassho,
        Nima

        Sat/Lah
        Hi Nima,

        In Soto Zen, Koans are typically used more as teaching stories, not as some phrase to ponder during Zazen, and not as some curriculum to be moved through with mysterious answers expected like a test to be passed.

        If you would like examples, please look at some past reflections on the Koans of the Book of Serenity. For example, here is one such Koan ...

        Case 94: Tozan Unwell

        Tozan was unwell. A monk asked,
        "Your Reverence is unwell. Is there anyone who does not become ill?"
        Tozan said,
        "There is."
        The monk said,
        "Does the one who does not get ill take care of Your Reverence?"
        Tozan said,
        "The old monk is properly taking care of that one."
        The monk said,
        "How about when your Reverence takes care of that one?"
        Tozan said,
        "Then the old monk does not see that there is illness."
        And here are some reflections: https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/show...NIMITY-Case-94

        I am preparing now to soon begin a new, similar dance with the Koans of the Book of Serenity.

        Gassho, Jundo

        stlah
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Hōzan
          Member
          • Dec 2022
          • 405

          Originally posted by Jundo
          I am preparing now to soon begin a new, similar dance with the Koans of the Book of Serenity.
          Looking forward!

          Gassho, Hōzan
          Satlah

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          • nima
            Member
            • Mar 2024
            • 4

            Originally posted by Jundo
            Hi Nima,

            In Soto Zen, Koans are typically used more as teaching stories, not as some phrase to ponder during Zazen, and not as some curriculum to be moved through with mysterious answers expected like a test to be passed.

            If you would like examples, please look at some past reflections on the Koans of the Book of Serenity. For example, here is one such Koan ...



            And here are some reflections: https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/show...NIMITY-Case-94

            I am preparing now to soon begin a new, similar dance with the Koans of the Book of Serenity.

            Gassho, Jundo

            stlah
            Many Thanks dear Jundo. Most of the Koans are two times harder for me (because of my almost poor English)

            Gassho,
            Nima

            Sat/Lah

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 39037

              Originally posted by Hōzan
              Looking forward!

              Gassho, Hōzan
              Satlah
              I meant that I am planning a dance with "Blue Cliff Record" this time, not Book of Serenity ...

              Gassho, J

              stlah
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Hōzan
                Member
                • Dec 2022
                • 405

                Originally posted by Jundo
                I meant that I am planning a dance with "Blue Cliff Record" this time, not Book of Serenity ...

                Gassho, J

                stlah
                Even more so then [emoji4]

                Gassho, Hōzan
                Satlah

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