Shakyo Practice Circle #1, May 2021

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  • Amelia
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 4985

    Shakyo Practice Circle #1, May 2021

    Hello, everyone!

    Here is the first Shakyo Practice Circle video:



    Thank you for your practice. Please feel free to post pictures of your work, and please do add any questions or comments for discussion with the group.

    Gassho
    Sat, lah
    求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
    I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.
  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40478

    #2
    That is a beautiful introduction, Geika.

    Thank you to everyone who is trying this practice. As Geika said, in our Treeleaf Shakyo group, we are simply undertaking writing with playfulness and a light heart, not overly concerned with the "right" stroke order or orthodox form in writing that characters, or the meaning of the words we are writing. It is thus something like chanting the Heart Sutra in Japanese where we might study the teaching at other times but, during the actual time of chanting, we do not need to worry about our perfect voice, the meaning of each word, and just let the power of the sound and music wash through us.

    Do keep a nice posture, as Geika said, and breathe easily, naturally and deeply from the diaphragm if possible. However, stay relaxed and light in heart.

    Although it is absolutely NOT important for you to worry about the "correct" way of writing these Kanji in order for you to undertake this practice, I thought it might be interesting for you to have a little understanding about what Chinese characters are, how to write them, and the meaning of what you are writing today. (However, after I explain a little, then forget about everything I said and JUST WRITE! )

    Characters (called "Kanji" in Japanese) developed thousands of years ago, probably from symbols placed on bone and wood used in divination ceremonies in ancient China. Gradually, they came to represent words, either singularly or in combinations. For example, "Shakyo," which we are practicing, is a word made of two characters: 写経, the first character of which (写) means "to copy" or "transcribe," and the second of which (経) means "Sutra" (although both can have some other meanings too, only semi-related, e.g., 経 also means "longitude" and "pass through."). So, together, 写経/Shakyo means "copying Sutras." Sometimes, Kanji might actually "look like" what they mean, e.g., the character for "mountains" (山) looks just like mountains. Other characters might have the meaning depicted in the character's parts (e.g., the character 経 has the part 糸 in it, which means "thread" which is what "Sutra" actually means, as it was leaves sewn together), but other characters or parts of characters may just be there for sound, or simplified versions of older, more complicated ways of writing, or for reasons that nobody remembers!

    Characters can sometimes be used too only because they have the right sound, more than for meaning. So, for example, while 写経 literally means "copying Sutras," the mantra at the end of the Heart Sutra which begins "Gate Gate Para Gate," pronounced something like "(I) Got (the letter) A" and "Para(chute)," in Chinese is written 揭 諦 揭 諦 波 羅 揭 諦 just because those Kanji sound like "Gate Gate Para Gate," and NOT for the meaning of each Kanji.

    Kanji can be written in various styles, for example, the following are all the same characters: The script at left is more ancient style and decorative for use on ink stamps, the scripts in the middle are more "cursive," while we will be tracing more the "standard" script style at the far right.



    As Geika said, when one "properly" writes Chinese characters, one pays attention to the order of each stroke, the shape of each stroke, the overall balance of each character as a whole, and the balance among all the characters in a document together. Here is a little gif showing stroke order, for example in this Kanji for "water":



    If you wish to study how to write Chinese characters right, well, you will need a good teacher of proper Chinese or Japanese writing. Geika and I don't want you to worry about that in undertaking this exercise. Put your heart into each character, and follow the patterns provided. Breathe nicely, write slowly, do not rush. Do your best to come close to the model provided. That is enough.

    Next lesson, Geika or I will add a little about the meaning of the sentences you are actually writing. Don't even be concerned about that this first time.

    Gassho, Jundo

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    • aprapti
      Member
      • Jun 2017
      • 889

      #3
      thank you, Geika. This was a very good introduction for me. It took away my last hesitancies to begin this practice!



      aprapti


      sat

      hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

      Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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      • Ryumon
        Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 1801

        #4
        As Jundo says, it's not that important to know the order of the strokes, but over time, learning it makes it a lot easier to write. In fact, once you've learned the stroke order for a bunch of characters, you can figure it out for many others. There is a logic to the stroke order, and Chinese and Japanese people can spot when you've written a character with the wrong stroke order. (It's kind of like having an accent when writing.)

        I took a Chinese calligraphy course many moons ago, together with a Chinese language course, and was fascinated by this style of writing. If I had more time, I would get back into it (though I have a tremor, so my calligraphy would probably be pretty ugly.)

        Tracking characters is very useful; I remember using workbooks with outlines of strokes printed, and the exercise was to fill those strokes, then characters.

        Because of that course, and some work I did on a journal about the Yi Jing back in the day, I came to appreciate the beauty of these characters, which express much more than western letters or words.

        I recently spotted a book about Japanese calligraphy which could be good for anyone wanting to learn more about ideographic writing:



        It looks at a number of characters, and how they're composed.

        Kaz Tanashashi also has a book about calligraphy; there's no "look inside" on Amazon, so I don't know what's in it, but I suspect it will be interesting as well.



        Gassho,

        Ryūmon

        sat
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        • aprapti
          Member
          • Jun 2017
          • 889

          #5
          Originally posted by Ryumon
          .

          Kaz Tanashashi also has a book about calligraphy; there's no "look inside" on Amazon, so I don't know what's in it, but I suspect it will be interesting as well.
          here is the content of the book:

          CONTENTS
          Preface ix
          Part One: AN INTRODUCTION TO EAST ASIAN CALLIGRAPHY
          1. What Is Ideography? 3
          2. The Evolution of Styles 7
          3. Shall We Begin? 11
          4. The Basic Strokes in Formal Script 16
          3. Applied Strokes in Semicursive and Cursive Scripts 23
          6. Aspects of Ideography 24
          7. Modes of Study 27
          8. The Mental Approach 29
          Part Two: MASTER SAMPLES AND STUDY 31
          Part Three: INSIDE CALLIGRAPHY 339
          9. Aesthetics in Formal Script 341
          10. Aesthetics in Semicursive and Cursive Scripts 344
          11. The Heart of Creativity 348
          12. Contemporary Art and International Art 350
          13. Continuous Practice 354
          14. Artist Names and Seals 357
          15. Mounting Artwork 359
          16. Studying Online 361
          17. A Breakthrough with the Brush 363
          Appendices
          List of Radicals 367
          List of Compounds 370
          List of Technical Terms 378
          List of Ancient Chinese Artists 382
          Recommended Supplies and Tutorial Video 386
          Selected Bibliography 387 Photography Credits 388 Acknowledgments 389 About the Author 390


          Part two gives a lot of samples; here is one boekomslag_4.jpg



          aprapti

          sat
          Last edited by aprapti; 05-05-2021, 10:37 PM.

          hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

          Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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          • Mdkaek
            Member
            • Oct 2016
            • 10

            #6
            Thank you for beginning this practice - it was thoroughly enjoyable
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            Gassho
            Satoday

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40478

              #7
              Originally posted by Mdkaek
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              • Shokai
                Dharma Transmitted Priest
                • Mar 2009
                • 6394

                #8
                beautiful

                gassho, shokai
                stlah
                合掌,生開
                gassho, Shokai

                仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                "Open to life in a benevolent way"

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                • Heitou
                  Member
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 101

                  #9
                  I give up, I've been trying for a week to post my pics but no matter what I do they are too big. Anyway I've finished the Sutra, I got going and couldn't stop it was very fun and relaxing, ready to start another one.
                  I have bought 4 Japanese writing books plus a pen set with a hard brush and soft brush. Thank You Geika and Jundo.

                  P.S. The pens I use are Japanese brush pens.

                  Gassho
                  Heitou
                  SatToday
                  Heitou
                  平桃

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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 40478

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Heitou
                    I give up, I've been trying for a week to post my pics but no matter what I do they are too big. Anyway I've finished the Sutra, I got going and couldn't stop it was very fun and relaxing, ready to start another one.
                    I have bought 4 Japanese writing books plus a pen set with a hard brush and soft brush. Thank You Geika and Jundo.

                    P.S. The pens I use are Japanese brush pens.

                    Gassho
                    Heitou
                    SatToday
                    Hi Heitou,

                    You don't have to post photos but, if you want to try, there are online free resizing tools ...



                    Gassho, J

                    STLah
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                    • Heitou
                      Member
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 101

                      #11
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                      Thank You Jundo, I didn't know you could do that.

                      Gassho
                      Heitou
                      SatToday
                      Heitou
                      平桃

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                      • Jundo
                        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 40478

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Heitou
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                        • Heitou
                          Member
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 101

                          #13
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                          What are these last four lines. I know one is for your name and another is for a prayer (I think) which is which.

                          Gassho
                          Heitou
                          SatToday
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                          • Amelia
                            Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4985

                            #14
                            Lovely work, you guys!

                            Ryumon, thank you for the links.

                            Heitou, I wish I could answer your question... maybe someone will spot your question and help

                            Gassho
                            Sat, lah
                            求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                            I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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                            • Jundo
                              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 40478

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Heitou
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]7085[/ATTACH]
                              What are these last four lines. I know one is for your name and another is for a prayer (I think) which is which.

                              Gassho
                              Heitou
                              SatToday
                              Well, those say

                              Hannya Shingyo (Heart Sutra) 般若心経

                              Then the reason for your writing, like a hope or dedication, "tame" 為

                              Then the date 日付

                              The your name 名前

                              But Geika, why are they there? I intentionally cut them off the version that I sent you for everyone to download. Did you use a different one from what I sent? (Geika, Heitou answered my question next post )



                              Gassho, Jundo

                              STLah
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