Thoughts on Effective Altruism?

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  • Ajo822
    Member
    • Jul 2024
    • 6

    #16
    Originally posted by Jundo
    I recalled that I recently read an article in Wired about this, which was a bit critical of some aspects.
    Sam Bankman-Fried is finally facing punishment. Let’s also put his ruinous philosophy on trial.

    I personally might dispute some of the criticisms raised by this writer, because (1) even though actions might have unintended consequences, doing nothing or little are also bound to have unintended consequences, and we simply must intelligently research and make our choices' on which actions/no actions to take, (2) the costs of doing nothing ... and failing to think outside the box ... are too high and too risky given the existential threats we face that do require such innovative actions and creative thinking; and (3) "longtermism" should not be confused with thinking about the near future and trying to consider solutions for world problems which may require research and investment today (My book advocates such research on technologies which may come online in the very near future to treat a variety of problems ranging from violence in anger, to apathy in the face of strangers' poverty, to moderation of our inner drives toward excess consumption and addiction, all of which are in harmony with Buddhist ethical values.)

    However, what do you think?


    Gassho, J

    stlah

    This was a fun read. The author is biased indeed, but outlines the criticisms against EA pretty well. It’s worth pointing out that EA doesn’t just sit on its high horse and rest on its laurels but does take criticism in stride in order to increase their “effectiveness.” The issue lies in their over reliance on quantification and statistics — the article alludes to the utilitarian metrics Ord used to calculate how many lives he has saved. They take no qualms about putting a(n economic) value on a life and to me that’s just absurd. But this same philosophizing has led to them advocating for animals and seeking to put an end to factory farming. I think you hit the nail on the head when you were able to extract some of the positives in EA’s logic.

    There’s a lot of good intermixed with a lot of not-so-good. My suggestion to anyone reading this and considering EA is to not be outright dismissive of their project(s), while also taking their suggestions with a grain of salt. This is a situation in which perhaps we can find a middle ground by still using compassion and what we think is right, while also recognizing that there may be ways to do good… more effectively.

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 40480

      #17
      I will move this to the "My Favorite Charities" section of our "Engaged Practice Center." There people can recommend projects they care for, large and small. Interestingly, many are very small and local, but they help folks too.

      Gassho, Jundo
      stlah
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • Tai Shi
        Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 3424

        #18
        I have added more Charitable causes to my previous groups while contineuing my previous list, Spondylitis Association of America, National Association on Mental Illness, Nature Conservancy, Feeding America, Feeding South Dakota, Local Foundations of Hospitals, I selected Avera Mac Kinnen Hospital, All Souls Unitarian Universalist Churche (s), pick a church of your choice, Association of Your Denomination, Empire Mental Health, Dyslexia (Groups), Literacy Groups, Teaching Adults to Read, Hartford Food Bank.
        Gassho
        lah/sat
        Tai Shi
        Last edited by Tai Shi; 09-03-2024, 03:48 PM.
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