4/9 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 39446

    4/9 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

    You must become such a person ... but you ARE such a person ...

    Does that mean that there is nothing to acquire, or that there is nothing to acquire acquired? :shock:

    Anywho, don't be anxious.

    Cook from 205

    Hixon from 190
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • Hoyu
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2020

    #2
    Re: 4/2 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

    From Hixon:
    One part of this dialog that struck me was when the mature student, once awakened, throws open the masters door and exclaims....
    "How wonderful! You cannot deceive me any longer with such notions as teacher, disciple, practice, enlightenment. If I had not come to offer respect to you this morning, I might have wasted my whole life studying sutras and going through the motions of monastic discipline."

    Sounds to me like another way of saying once you have been guided to the destination you no longer need the map. The "destination" in this case being awakening and the "map" being rituals, teachers, sutras, etc.

    Gassho,
    John
    Ho (Dharma)
    Yu (Hot Water)

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    • Rimon
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 309

      #3
      Re: 4/2 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

      When one is consciously looking for his or her own head the most one gets its the reflection of it. But when one starts practicing... There is the head. Why to be anxious at all? It is always at our reach.

      The reference of the jade rabbit always reminds me of compassion and how important it is on our daily practice. I was very impressed first time I read it: the ultimate sacrifice, offering yourself as a meal for a stranger...
      According to the Wikipedia, the Aztecs have a very similar story. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rabbit) makes me think that it has to be a story from ancient times, shared by different cultures...


      Gassho

      Rimon
      Rimon Barcelona, Spain
      "Practice and the goal of practice are identical." [i:auj57aui]John Daido Loori[/i:auj57aui]

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      • Hoyu
        Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2020

        #4
        Re: 4/2 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

        Hi Rimon,
        Thanks for sharing this interesting link.
        There's a lot of cultural interplay within Asia so finding similarities and the like isn't that surprising. What is however, is for the Aztecs (with seemingly no connection) to have their own folklore version wich is nearly identical!

        Gassho,
        John
        Ho (Dharma)
        Yu (Hot Water)

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        • Rimon
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 309

          #5
          Re: 4/2 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

          Originally posted by JRBrisson
          Hi Rimon,
          Thanks for sharing this interesting link.
          There's a lot of cultural interplay within Asia so finding similarities and the like isn't that surprising. What is however, is for the Aztecs (with seemingly no connection) to have their own folklore version wich is nearly identical!

          Gassho,
          John
          Isn't it curious? I've been thinking about any connections between Buddhists and Aztecs but nothing came out. Maybe we have another zen koan: "Why did Bodhidharma travelled from China to Tenochtitlan?"
          8)
          Rimon Barcelona, Spain
          "Practice and the goal of practice are identical." [i:auj57aui]John Daido Loori[/i:auj57aui]

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          • Shokai
            Treeleaf Priest
            • Mar 2009
            • 6391

            #6
            Re: 4/2 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

            Q: Same reason the chicken crossed the road??
            A: To get to the other side!!

            Commentary: Hope he put aside the raft. :roll:
            合掌,生開
            gassho, Shokai

            仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

            "Open to life in a benevolent way"

            https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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            • Shokai
              Treeleaf Priest
              • Mar 2009
              • 6391

              #7
              Re: 4/2 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

              Another example is how Hildegard of Bingen's dreams portrayed anatomical truths that were not discovered until the development of the electronic microscope some nine hundred years later. :idea:
              合掌,生開
              gassho, Shokai

              仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

              "Open to life in a benevolent way"

              https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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              • Heisoku
                Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 1338

                #8
                Re: 4/2 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

                I don't think we need to acquire anything per se but I do reckon we need to let go an awful lot!
                I'm at a point where I realise how tricky this 'self' is at wanting not only to acquire more, but also to retain this concept of self and everything that supports it.
                In this passage I guess that Daopi has let go and is just letting his teacher know!
                Heisoku 平 息
                Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home. (Basho)

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                • Rimon
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 309

                  #9
                  Re: 4/2 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

                  Originally posted by Shokai
                  Another example is how Hildegard of Bingen's dreams portrayed anatomical truths that were not discovered until the development of the electronic microscope some nine hundred years later. :idea:
                  That sounds very interesting and intriguing, Shokai. Which truths did she discover in her dreams?

                  Gassho

                  Rimon
                  Rimon Barcelona, Spain
                  "Practice and the goal of practice are identical." [i:auj57aui]John Daido Loori[/i:auj57aui]

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                  • AlanLa
                    Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1405

                    #10
                    Re: 4/9 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

                    Who am I?
                    Tiny purple fishes run laughing through my fingers

                    Who am I?
                    Cogito ergo sum

                    Who am I?
                    One Body

                    Who am I?
                    Who am I not?

                    What do I want?
                    Nothing, which allows me to have, be, and do everything
                    AL (Jigen) in:
                    Faith/Trust
                    Courage/Love
                    Awareness/Action!

                    I sat today

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                    • Shohei
                      Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 2854

                      #11
                      Re: 4/9 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

                      Hiyas
                      This is what it is, This is what it is not but stick to any of it and its not it. I quite liked this bit in the cook book where in the Teisho Keizen says "Do not think that there is no one apart from speech... and onward including Do no tbe like a stump... very good advice. Imitation is also not it. Understanding... is still not it! Being...well that remains to be seen!

                      Gassho
                      Shohei

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                      • Shogen
                        Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 301

                        #12
                        Re: 4/9 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

                        "Natural and without effort the mind is like a fan in winter and the lips are covered with moss." Keizan
                        This is such a person acquiring such a thing! Gassho, Shogen

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                        • BrianW
                          Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 511

                          #13
                          Re: 4/9 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Daopi

                          Continually ask, "Who am I ?" Never answered, but keep searching. Being aware of the question, but not anxious. Keizan advises us to always stay connected with other living beings.... Is this a clue?

                          Gassho,
                          Jisen/BrianW

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