The Zen Master's Dance - 15 - Genjo Koan (Middle of p. 59 to Bottom of p. 62)

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 43863

    The Zen Master's Dance - 15 - Genjo Koan (Middle of p. 59 to Bottom of p. 62)

    Dear All,

    I feel that today's readings will certainly be worth your TIME!

    We will read (seeming to progress forward) from the bottom p. 59 (the passage about the boat), ending toward the bottom of p. 62 (stopping just before "Our enlightenment is like the moon reflected in the water.")

    I suspect very much (although I have seen many Dogen historians say so) that Dogen wrote the Genjo Koan to a lay student who had recently known some death close by. Thus, in Dogen's way, he is teaching that life and death are not just what seems to meet the eye. We usually think that birth is followed by life, then death comes and (to the traditional Buddhist) birth may then come again. Looking at other writings by Dogen in which he seems to be very traditional in outlook about "rebirth," I don't feel that Dogen really meant to reject that traditional view here. That is not his meaning in saying, "do not think of returning to birth after death." Rather, I think he meaning is something closer to saying "let each time be its own time, life time the time of life, death time the time of death."

    Your assignment today is to really shake up your ordinary view of (1) relative motion and activity and (2) sequential time. You will do it by replacing the nouns in the following passages by Dogen other activities that usually seems to depend on an actor doing acts in relative motion and in sequential time. Please do BOTH of the following assignments. Dogen's passages are:

    (1)

    When you sail in a boat and look out at the shore, you might feel that the shore is moving. But when you turn your eyes toward the boat, you may then feel that the boat is moving. In the same way, if you observe the myriad things of the world with confused ideas of body and mind you might assume that your mind and nature are enduring and stand separate from things. But when you intimately practice and turn within, it will become clear that nothing at all has a fixed, individual self.
    Take a different activity you regularly do in your life involving motion, and substitute it [my substitutions in BOLDFACE]. For example, if skate boarding:

    When you skate on your board and look out at the curb, you might feel that the curb is moving. But when you turn your eyes toward the board, you may then feel that the board is moving. In the same way, if you observe the myriad things of the world with confused ideas of body and mind you might assume that your mind and nature are enduring and stand separate from things. But when you intimately practice and turn within, it will become clear that nothing at all has a fixed, individual self.
    You pick a like moving activity that you do, and replace the above BOLDFACE words only.

    (2)

    Here are Dogen's original passages teaching us new ways to experience sequential time:

    Firewood turns to ash and it does not turn to firewood again. But do not think that the ash is the future and the firewood is past. Rather, ash is wholly ash with nothing remaining, and the firewood is just firewood with nothing more. You should understand that firewood abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of firewood, which fully includes its own past and future yet is independent of all past and
    future. Ash abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of ash, which fully includes its own past and future too.

    Just as firewood does not turn to firewood again after it is ash, do not think of returning to birth after death.

    Thus, it is an established rule in Buddhist teachings to deny that birth turns into death. Therefore, birth is understood as no-birth, for in the time of birth there is no other moment with which to compare it. It is an unshakable teaching in Buddha’s preaching that death does not turn into birth. Therefore, death is understood as no-death when there is no other moment with which to compare it.

    Birth is a situation complete in this moment. Death is a situation complete in this moment. They are the same as winter and spring. We do not say that winter becomes spring, nor do we say that spring becomes summer.
    Now, take an action that you cherish doing in your life which occurs in sequential time (e.g., gardening, bread baking, diaper changing, painting pictures, fixing car motors etc. etc.), and replace "birth and death" with that other activity. For example, if I were to take book reading, I might try this:

    Page 59 turns to Page 60 and it does not turn to Page 59 again. But do not think that the Page 60 is the future and Page 59 is past. Rather, Page 60 is wholly Page with nothing remaining, and that Page 59 is just Page 59 with nothing more. You should understand that Page 59 abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of Page 59, which fully includes its own past and future yet is independent of all past and future. Page 60 abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of Page 60, which fully includes its own past and future too.

    Just as Page 59 does not turn to Page 59 again after it is Page 60, do not think of returning to birth after death.

    Thus, it is an established rule in Buddhist teachings to deny that Page 59 turns into Page 60. Therefore, Page 59 is understood as no-Page 59, for in the time of Page 59 there is no other page with which to compare it. It is an unshakable teaching in Buddha’s preaching that Page 60 does not turn into Page 59 or Page 61. Therefore, Page 60 is understood as no-Page 60 when there is no other moment with which to compare it.

    Page 59 is a situation complete in this moment. Page 60 is a situation complete in this moment. They are the same as winter and spring. We do not say that winter becomes spring, nor do we say that spring becomes summer.
    You do the same with a time sequential activity your cherish, but replacing BOLDFACE words only.

    Let's see what you come up with.

    As always, please post your creations before looking at what other people have posted.

    Gassho, Jundo

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • Koriki
    Novice Priest-in-Training
    • Apr 2022
    • 679

    #2
    1.
    When you run on the sand and look out at the shore, you might feel that the shore is moving. But when you turn your eyes toward your legs, you may then feel that you are moving. In the same way, if you observe the myriad things of the world with confused ideas of body and mind you might assume that your mind and nature are enduring and stand separate from things. But when you intimately practice and turn within, it will become clear that nothing at all has a fixed, individual self.


    2.
    When college football Saturday is over and turns to NFL Sunday and it does not turn to college football Saturday again. But do not think that NFL Sunday is the future and college football Saturday is the past. Rather, Sunday is wholly Sunday with nothing remaining, and that Saturday is just Saturday with nothing more. You should understand that college football Saturday abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of Saturday, which fully includes its own past and future yet is independent of all past and future. NFL Sunday abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of Sunday, which fully includes its own past and future too.

    Just as college football Saturday does not turn to college football Saturday again after it is NFL Sunday, do not think of returning to birth after death.

    Thus, it is an established rule in Buddhist teachings to deny that Saturday turns into Sunday. Therefore, college football Saturday is understood as no-college football Saturday, for in the time of Saturday there is no other day with which to compare it. It is an unshakable teaching in Buddha’s preaching that NFL Sunday does not turn into college football Saturday or Monday Night Football. Therefore, NFL Sunday is understood as no-NFL Sunday when there is no other moment with which to compare it.

    College football Saturday is a situation complete in this moment. NFL Sunday is a situation complete in this moment. They are the same as winter and spring. We do not say that winter becomes spring, nor do we say that spring becomes summer.

    Gassho,
    Koriki
    s@lah

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 43863

      #3
      Touchdown

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      • Hosui
        Member
        • Sep 2024
        • 228

        #4
        1.
        When you initially devote yourself to sit sesshin and look out at the train of thoughts, you might feel that the thoughts are moving. But when you turn your eyes toward your initial devotion, you may then feel that your devotion is moving. In the same way, if you observe the myriad things of the world with confused ideas of body and mind you might assume that your mind and nature are enduring and stand separate from things. But when you intimately practice and turn within, it will become clear that nothing at all has a fixed, individual self.


        2.
        Order turns to execution and it does not turn to order again. But do not think that the execution is the future and order is past. Rather, execution is wholly order with nothing remaining, and that order is just order with nothing more. You should understand that order abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of order, which fully includes its own past and future yet is independent of all past and future. Execution abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of execution, which fully includes its own past and future too.

        Just as order does not turn to order again after it is execution, do not think of returning to birth after death.

        Thus, it is an established rule in Buddhist teachings to deny that order turns into execution. Therefore, order is understood as no-order, for in the time of order there is no other sequence with which to compare it. It is an unshakable teaching in Buddha’s preaching that execution does not turn into order or further executions. Therefore, execution is understood as no-execution when there is no other moment with which to compare it.

        Order is a situation complete in this moment. Execution is a situation complete in this moment. They are the same as winter and spring. We do not say that winter becomes spring, nor do we say that spring becomes summer.

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        • Jundo
          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
          • Apr 2006
          • 43863

          #5
          First I thought firing squad, but then realized it was financial advice!

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          • Hokuu
            Member
            • Apr 2023
            • 188

            #6
            (1)

            When you hike in a forest and look out at the trees you pass, you might feel that the trees are moving. But when you turn your eyes toward the road you hike upon, you may then feel that the road is moving. In the same way, if you observe the myriad things of the world with confused ideas of body and mind you might assume that your mind and nature are enduring and stand separate from things. But when you intimately practice and turn within, it will become clear that nothing at all has a fixed, individual self.

            (2)

            Potatoes turn to purée and it doesn't not turn to potatoes again. But do not think that purée is the future and potatoes are past. Rather, purée is wholly purée with nothing remaining, and the potatoes​ are just potatoes​ with nothing more. You should understand that potatoes​ abide in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of potatoes​, which fully includes their own past and future yet are independent of all past and future. Purée​ abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of purée​, which fully includes its own past and future too.

            Just as potatoes​ do not turn to potatoes​ again after it is purée​, do not think of returning to birth after death.

            Thus, it is an established rule in Buddhist teachings to deny that potatoes​ turn into purée​. Therefore, potatoes​ are understood as no-potatoes​, for in the time of potatoes​ there is no other moment with which to compare them. It is an unshakable teaching in Buddha’s preaching that purée​ does not turn into potatoes​. Therefore, purée​ is understood as no-purée​ when there is no other moment with which to compare it.

            Potatoes​ are a situation complete in this moment. Purée​ is a situation complete in this moment. They are the same as winter and spring. We do not say that winter becomes spring, nor do we say that spring becomes summer.

            Gassho
            Hokuu
            satlah
            歩空​ (Hokuu)
            歩 = Walk / 空 = Sky (or Emptiness)
            "Moving through life with the freedom of walking through open sky"

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 43863

              #7
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              • Furyu
                Member
                • Jul 2023
                • 343

                #8
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                When you deliver a curling stone and look out at the end-board, you might feel that your body and the stone are moving. But when you turn your eyes downwards to the ice-sheet, you may then feel that the ice-sheet is moving beneath you. In the same way, if you observe the myriad things of the world with confused ideas of body and mind you might assume that your mind and nature are enduring and stand separate from things. But when you intimately practice and turn within, it will become clear that nothing at all has a fixed, individual self.

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                Practice turns to performance and it does not turn to practice again. But do not think that the performance is the future and practice is past. Rather, performance is wholly performance with nothing remaining, and that practice is just practice with nothing more. You should understand that practice abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of practice, which fully includes its own past and future yet is independent of all past and future. Performance abides in the phenomenal expression and wholeness of performance, which fully includes its own past and future too.

                Just as practice does not turn to practice again after it is performance, do not think of returning to birth after death.

                Thus, it is an established rule in Buddhist teachings to deny that practice turns into performance. Therefore, practice is understood as no-practice, for in the time of practice there is no other activity with which to compare it. It is an unshakable teaching in Buddha’s preaching that performance does not turn into practice or silence. Therefore, performance is understood as no-performance when there is no other moment with which to compare it.

                Practice is a situation complete in this moment. Performance is a situation complete in this moment. They are the same as winter and spring. We do not say that winter becomes spring, nor do we say that spring becomes summer.


                Gasshō
                sat-lah

                Fūryū​
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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 43863

                  #9
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