Blue Cliff Record (Case 5) Hsueh Feng's Grain of Rice

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  • Tai Do
    Member
    • Jan 2019
    • 1456

    #16
    I'm the rice and the one holding the rice.
    Gassho,
    Tai Do
    Satlah
    怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
    (also known as Mateus )

    禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 40298

      #17
      Originally posted by Tai Do
      I'm the rice and the one holding the rice.
      Gassho,
      Tai Do
      Satlah
      Nice. And what is not the rice?

      Anyway, what "I" and what "rice"?

      (Rhetorical questions, just to be with. No need to respond.)

      Gassho, J
      stlah
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • Ramine
        Member
        • Jul 2023
        • 148

        #18
        Originally posted by Jundo
        - If the whole world is this grain of sand or rice in your hand, but the grain is a thing in the world, where are you located? Where is Hsueh Feng right now? (Hint: Whatever you say may be like the "wild fox interpretation" mentioned in the COMMENTARY.)-
        Caution, may include wild foxes...

        As I pick up the grain of rice, the grain of rice picks me up and both are killed instantly.
        Me picking up the rice is the rice picking itself up.
        The grain of rice picks me up and throws me down.
        Wherever the grain is thrown down, I am already there.
        The moment when I meet the grain of rice is the moment both are being exactly what they are, Buddha being Buddha.
        How could I be anywhere? Where couldn't I be? Exactly the same place Hsueh Feng is right now.

        Ramine

        Sat and Lah



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        • Jundo
          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
          • Apr 2006
          • 40298

          #19
          Cool
          ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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          • Houzan
            Member
            • Dec 2022
            • 512

            #20
            Standing exactly right here, I am exactly right there. Where else can Hsueh Feng be?

            or:
            I am in the palm of the grain of sand’s hand.

            Gassho, Hōzan
            Satlah
            Last edited by Houzan; 09-19-2024, 08:24 PM.

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            • Hoseki
              Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 675

              #21
              - If the whole world is this grain of sand or rice in your hand, but the grain is a thing in the world, where are you located?

              I'm in the palm of the grain's hand.

              - Where is Hsueh Feng right now?

              He resides where only those with ears can see.

              gassho,
              hoseki
              sattoday/lah

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              • Tairin
                Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 2820

                #22
                I am. Here.
                Not I. Everywhere.

                Not two.


                Tairin
                Say today and lah
                Last edited by Tairin; 09-22-2024, 12:15 AM.
                泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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                • Koriki
                  Member
                  • Apr 2022
                  • 235

                  #23
                  - If the whole world is this grain of sand or rice in your hand, but the grain is a thing in the world, where are you located? Where is Hsueh Feng right now?
                  If everything is interconnected such that we are really one, then the only place we can be is here. "There" implies duality. Therefore, the only place Hsueh Feng can be is here.

                  Gassho,
                  Koriki
                  s@lah

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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 40298

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Koriki
                    If everything is interconnected such that we are really one, then the only place we can be is here. "There" implies duality. Therefore, the only place Hsueh Feng can be is here.

                    Gassho,
                    Koriki
                    s@lah
                    But what if "here" if no "there" to contrast??

                    And is not "there" but here that's over there?

                    Gassho, J
                    stlah
                    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                    • Hoko
                      Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 455

                      #25
                      QUESTION:

                      - If the whole world is this grain of sand or rice in your hand, but the grain is a thing in the world, where are you located? Where is Hsueh Feng right now? (Hint: Whatever you say may be like the "wild fox interpretation" mentioned in the COMMENTARY.)
                      The whole world is in the grain of rice in your hand yet there is no "you" to throw the rice.
                      But at the same time, without you there would be no rice, no whole, great earth and no fingers to pick it up with.

                      You are everywhere at once and nowhere in particular.
                      There is no dust nor mirror, the rice need not be washed, but also, you can't see your reflection in a dusty mirror and nobody wants to eat dirty rice.
                      Therefore, right here, right now, you must polish the mirror and wash the rice! If not you then who?

                      Where is Hsueh Fang? He is teaching his community. He's picking up the world, throwing down the rice and beating the drum.
                      He preaches the dharma in the past, present and future.

                      Gassho,
                      Hoko

                      ST/LAH​
                      法 Dharma
                      口 Mouth

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                      • Jundo
                        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 40298

                        #26
                        Good stuff.
                        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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