WHAT's OFTEN MISSING in SHIKANTAZA EXPLANATIONS ....

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  • Ryumon
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 1801

    #16
    Yes. Thank you

    Gassho,

    Kirk
    &sat
    Last edited by Ryumon; 02-09-2017, 10:33 PM.
    I know nothing.

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    • Myosha
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 2974

      #17
      Originally posted by Jishin
      Thank you. I would like to add that the lotus posture fetish is a huge detractor to just sitting.

      Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_
      Hello,

      And this detractor is evidence of . . . ?


      Gassho
      Myosha
      sat today
      "Recognize suffering, remove suffering." - Shakyamuni Buddha when asked, "Uhm . . .what?"

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      • Jishin
        Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 4821

        #18
        Originally posted by Myosha
        Hello,

        And this detractor is evidence of . . . ?


        Gassho
        Myosha
        sat today
        This detractor is evidence of that the lotus posture fetish is a detractor to just sitting.

        Res ipsa loquitur.

        Gassho, Jishin, ST

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        • Kyonin
          Dharma Transmitted Priest
          • Oct 2010
          • 6749

          #19
          Thank you Jundo.

          Gassho,

          Kyonin
          #SatToday
          Hondō Kyōnin
          奔道 協忍

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          • Seishin
            Member
            • Aug 2016
            • 1522

            #20
            Originally posted by Jundo



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            Shikantaza Zazen must be sat, for the time it is sat, with the student profoundly trusting deep in her bones that sitting itself is a complete and sacred act, the one and only action that need be done in the whole universe in that instant of sitting. This truth should not be thought about or voiced in so many words, but must be silently and subtly felt deep down.


            I tell my new students to trust in the method until it proves itself. If need be, “fake it ‘till you make it” in nurturing these feelings. “Just Sitting is Buddha” is not a mantra that should be voiced in words during Zazen, nor something that must be unfailingly felt at each and every moment of sitting. Rather, there only needs to be a subtle, yet vital sense and faith, felt deep down in the gut while sitting, that “THIS IS IT! THERE IS NO OTHER IT!”


            Jundo many thanks for sharing this article, its good to see these observations collectively, as I am sure I have read much of what you say in a number of different threads.

            Although I have now been sitting daily since joining the sangha last year, a mere 5 months or so I still feel I'm in the Fake It "class", as I'm yet to realize how to feel this deep trust you speak of "in my bones". I sit with no expectations, struggling to let go and relax but like escaping from that Chinese finger tube, that's what I need to do. I understand the portability, as I sit without judgement, desire or anger and know that I can carry this with me throughout the day. Yes some days are harder than others and someone or something may just push the wrong button too far but generally I feel I am more accepting of what's going with me and inside and around me.

            But how do I find that core deep trust and finally sit without think of sitting, without thinking of not attaining or chasing thoughts of am I doing this right, knowing there is no right or wrong good or bad. So despite committing to sit daily and having only missed one day since Sept 1 last year, this is something I still struggle with understanding. Perhaps I just need to sit some more................


            Seishin

            Sei - Meticulous
            Shin - Heart

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            • Hoko
              Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 457

              #21
              Faking it, making it.
              Just this is it.
              Faking faking, making making.
              Just this is it.

              Gassho,
              Hōkō
              #SatToday


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              口 Mouth

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              • Enjaku
                Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 310

                #22
                Thanks Jundo, great article.
                Gassho,
                Enjaku
                Sat
                援若

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                • Hoseki
                  Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 679

                  #23
                  Gassho,

                  Hoseki
                  Sattoday

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                  • Seido
                    Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 167

                    #24
                    Thank you.

                    Gassho,
                    Seido
                    SatToday
                    The strength and beneficence of the soft and yielding.
                    Water achieves clarity through stillness.

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                    • Banto
                      Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 209

                      #25
                      Love it, thanks for sharing it. Very clear.
                      Zazen is zazen
                      I should very much like to share that when it comes out with people that ask me about it.
                      Though it's good for nothing

                      Gassho Jundo
                      Banto/Rodney SatToday

                      Banto (aka Rodney)
                      万磴 (Myriad StoneSteps)

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                      • Onkai
                        Treeleaf Priest
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 3044

                        #26
                        Thank you, Jundo. It's a wonderful article.

                        Gassho,
                        Onkai
                        SatToday
                        美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
                        恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

                        I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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                        • Joyo

                          #27
                          Thank you, Jundo. This is something I need to remind myself of often.

                          Gassho,
                          Joyo
                          sat today

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                          • lorax
                            Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 381

                            #28
                            Sat today - gassho
                            Shozan

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                            • Matt
                              Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 497

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Jundo
                              True peace comes not by chasing peace, but by resting now in peace.
                              Thank you for this teaching, Jundo.

                              Gassho
                              Matt
                              #SatToday

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                              • Meitou
                                Member
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 1656

                                #30
                                Great teaching, worth reading every day. Thank you Jundo
                                Gassho

                                I sat with you all today
                                命 Mei - life
                                島 Tou - island

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